6 Nov
1997
6 Nov
'97
7:53 a.m.
Oh yes, Tim (This could be a Tim-Tim conversation type thing!!!), that
would be very nice. Well let's see, I'd have to trade in the Honda for a
truck, ship it back to the US from Bahrain, drive down, and then come back.
Not my idea of fun. (Sorry, I didn't mean to sound hostile)
I've found 30 IBM 400 terminals for $1 a piece, in Western Massachusetts,
but no mainframe.
Anyway, I need systems, not parts (I need systems for the parts :-) .)
But if I get the systems, I'll get the parts. I can even use the most
"common" classics, I have a US postal address.
Ciao,
Tim D. Hotze
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From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Classic Computer Rescue Squad
Date: Thursday, November 06, 1997 9:44 PM
Does anyone have any systems that they could sell me?
Anything... all
I've
got is an XT that dosn't work.
Sure. Come up here with a lift-gate truck and I'll sell you all the
Data General Novas, 14" disk drives, and 1/2" 9-track tape drives
that you could want.
Tim. (shoppa(a)triumf.ca)
6 Nov
6 Nov
9:40 a.m.
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10:06 a.m.
On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Tim Shoppa wrote:
Of course, because DG Novae haven't been featured
in the _LA Times_
or the _Chicago Tribune_, nobody wants them. The instant they are
featured, all sorts of lusers will start crawling out and insisting
they *need* a Nova, price is no object, just like happened with my
Altair's, IMSAI's, and Apple I's.
So tell us Tim, just how many Apple I's *do* you have buried up there???
B^}
...ever find that #2 9 track reel?
-jim
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11:03 a.m.
On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Tim Shoppa wrote:
Of course, because DG Novae haven't been featured
in the _LA Times_
or the _Chicago Tribune_, nobody wants them. The instant they are
featured, all sorts of lusers will start crawling out and insisting
they *need* a Nova, price is no object, just like happened with my
Altair's, IMSAI's, and Apple I's.
The Nova will never be featured in the newspapers because it is not a
socially significant computer. In the great scheme of things, it is but
one of many. Drop the rant already.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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11:14 a.m.
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11:26 p.m.
On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Tim Shoppa wrote:
Not a problem. I can get you a Nova 4 CPU+chassis, a
DG terminal, a
6045 14" disk drive, controller, and pack, and a 9-track tape drive,
all hooked together and running DG RDOS.
How much space would a system like this take, and what kind of power is
required to feed it? :)
Of course, because DG Novae haven't been featured
in the _LA Times_
or the _Chicago Tribune_, nobody wants them. The instant they are
featured, all sorts of lusers will start crawling out and insisting
they *need* a Nova, price is no object, just like happened with my
Altair's, IMSAI's, and Apple I's.
I'd like a Nova, but I've so far not been courageous enough to think
seriously about moving one from Vancouver to Montreal. :)
I know nothing about minis. My entire collection consists of
(generally very common) micros, and I'd almost be afraid to let a mini in
the house in case something goes wrong. (My conscience does not handle
damaging classic computer equipment well.)
Tim. (shoppa(a)triumf.ca)
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
7 Nov
7 Nov
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9 Nov
9 Nov
11:12 p.m.
On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Tim Shoppa wrote:
If I moved my brother's Mustang out of its snug insulated and heated
compartment in our garage, there'd be enough room in there for SEVERAL of
these machines, AND they'd be situated next to the circuit breakers.
<rub hands with scheming glee>
Now, how do I "disappear" a red Mustang convertible in a way that nobody
notices? :)
On Thu, 6 Nov
1997, Tim Shoppa wrote:
All the above fit together in a 5-foot-high rack that has a footprint
of about 22" wide x 36" deep. (OK, I'm assuming you sit the terminal
on top of the rack - a more realistic use would have the terminal
on a desk somewhere!) Not a problem. I can get you a Nova 4
CPU+chassis, a DG terminal, a
6045 14" disk drive, controller, and pack, and a 9-track tape drive,
all hooked together and running DG RDOS.
How much space would a system like this take, and what kind of power is
required to feed it? :) You need a little bit of clearance behind the
rack so that you can run cables, and about 2 feet of clearance in front
to open the tape drive door or pull the disk drive out to change the
removable pack. Total weight is about a quarter-ton, and
current draw is 5-6 Amps (@120V) with the CPU and disk drive running; add
another 4 to 5 Amps if the tape drive is on and loaded.
How well would a Nova survive winter weather during transit? Do you think
CN or CP would be too rough with these things? :)
Tim. (shoppa(a)triumf.ca)
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
10 Nov
10 Nov
2:45 p.m.
New subject: Novas etc
Hi Doug:
How well would a Nova survive winter weather during
transit? Do you think
CN or CP would be too rough with these things? :)
I'm in Vancouver, very close to Tim. Lately I've been to Ottawa quite
frequently with my work, if you're close to there (where's Concordia, I
know it's back east Ont/Que somewhere) I may be able to take a bit of
extra "luggage" my next trip, which may be in January.
Tim's living room is quite full of DG boxes, and I'm sure if you can work
out a deal with him he'd be happy to get another corner of the room back!
Kevin
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