On Monday, January 6, 2003, Zane H. Healy wrote: Let me explain again how cctech works now. The simple answer is that cctech and cctalk work like different views of the same list. Cctech subscribers get all on-topic posts sent to either list. Cctalk subscribers get the same messages plus off-topic messages. The only difference between cctalk and cctech is reception of off-topic messages and moderation delay. If you look at the (recent) archives of cctech, you'll see that they have mostly the same exact messages as the cctalk archives. The only things missing from the cctech archives are off-topic posts. I'm sending this message to cctalk, but both lists will get it because it is on-topic. Here is the not-so-simple answer: Cctalk and cctech technically are separate Mailman lists, but you can't post to just one of them. The aliases cctalk(a)classiccmp.org and cctech(a)classiccmp.org are set up somewhat like this like this: cctalk@cla... --+ +--> post to cctalk +--> classiccmp@cla... --+ cctech@cla... --+ +--> post to cctech Thus, no matter which posting address you send your post to, our mail system automagically tries to post it to both lists. If you are subscribed to cctalk, your post is immediately accepted by cctalk and delivered to the other cctalk subscribers. Cctech, however, holds your post for moderation, since you don't subscribe to cctech. Some time later, a moderator will look at your post. If your post is on-topic, it will be approved and delivered to cctech subscribers. If you are a cctech subscriber, your post is immediately accepted by cctech and delivered to cctech subscribers. Because of the way Mailman is set up, your post is also immediately delivered to the cctalk people (well, unless your're new and I haven't got around to processing you yet). Subscribing to both lists at the same time is an error. If you do so, you will get two copies of every on-topic message. My apologies if this isn't the clearest thing that I have ever written. I am very tired at the moment due to insomnia last night. This is going in the FAQ. -- Jeffrey Sharp