Mr. Hartman -- I now add my voice to the voices of others who have repeatedly requested that you stop your grossly off-topic and impolite posts to this list. Will you please stop this? Your continued attempt to justify your actions (posting private messages to a public list) is very distasteful to me, and I'm sure others also find it so. The fact that you have an opinion does not entitle you to use this list to express that opinion. We are all here as guests. You have no control over what others choose to tolerate, regardless of what you "want." If Sellam should "attack" and/or "harass" someone other than yourself, is that not their battle to fight? I am not at all sure what you are suggesting here, but I *am* sure that I don't like the sound of it. Since you do not have the power to banish Sellam or anyone else from this list, and since such a banishment would still not prevent Sellam or anyone else from sending private email messages, the above-quoted statement implies that you are prepared to take *some other course of action* to achieve your stated goals. Mr. Hartman, I am certain that posting such sentiments to a public forum is not a wise thing to do. Mr. Hartman, who *are* you to state as a fact your opinion of what anyone needs to do, on this list or off? If this is so, then why have you not asked for help in clear and simple language? I believe you will find that the members of this list are not so easily manipulated. Again, I respectfully request that you cease these impolite, manipulative, defensive, and off-topic posts. Glen Goodwin Orlando, FL USA 0/0