23 Jul
2001
23 Jul
'01
3:30 p.m.
Anybody know where I can find a Hayes Chronograph? I ran across
my Smartmodem 300 (in original box!) in the garage the other day,
and it showed the "companion" clock in a "stack" on the back of
the box.. I"ve always wanted to find one..
Bill
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23 Jul
23 Jul
4:28 p.m.
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Bill Bradford wrote:
Anybody know where I can find a Hayes Chronograph? I
ran across my
Smartmodem 300 (in original box!) in the garage the other day, and it
showed the "companion" clock in a "stack" on the back of the box..
I"ve always wanted to find one..
I've only ever come across one, at a thrift store, and now it's part of my
collection. Someone brought this subject up last year or so. They are
fairly rare. Good luck!
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5:45 p.m.
I think the Hayes Chronograph is the holy grail of early Hayes products.
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Bill Bradford wrote:
Anybody know where I can find a Hayes
Chronograph? I ran across my
Smartmodem 300 (in original box!) in the garage the other day, and it
showed the "companion" clock in a "stack" on the back of the box..
I"ve always wanted to find one..
I've only ever come across one, at a thrift store, and now it's part of my
collection. Someone brought this subject up last year or so. They are
fairly rare. Good luck!
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5:50 p.m.
--- Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Bill Bradford wrote:
Does anyone have the AT protocol spec for it? I've always been interested
in the concept of a timekeeper that I could read/set from machines that
were not ethernet/NTP-capable. I've even sat around dreaming up ways to
build a wall clock that was settable and readable either via IR or some
serial connection so I'd have a chance of keeping things sync'ed around here.
If I ever did get an RS-232-based timekeeper, I'd think about throwing it
on a terminal server so everybody else on there could get to it.
I've never seen one, but I'd rather not re-invent the wheel. Just knowing
the command set is a starting point for even a PIC-based modern replica.
-ethan
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Anybody know where I can find a Hayes
Chronograph? I ran across my
Smartmodem 300 (in original box!) in the garage the other day, and it
showed the "companion" clock in a "stack" on the back of the box..
I"ve always wanted to find one..
I've only ever come across one, at a thrift store, and now it's part of my
collection. Someone brought this subject up last year or so. They are
fairly rare. Good luck! 
7:07 p.m.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
Does anyone have the AT protocol spec for it?
I've always been interested
in the concept of a timekeeper that I could read/set from machines that
were not ethernet/NTP-capable. I've even sat around dreaming up ways to
build a wall clock that was settable and readable either via IR or some
serial connection so I'd have a chance of keeping things sync'ed around here.
If I ever did get an RS-232-based timekeeper, I'd think about throwing it
on a terminal server so everybody else on there could get to it.
I've never seen one, but I'd rather not re-invent the wheel. Just knowing
the command set is a starting point for even a PIC-based modern replica.
A quck Google search threw up 195 hits includng this site :
http://incolor.inebraska.com/bill_r/hayes_stack_chronograph.htm
which claims to include a scanned copy of the owners manual. I presume
the command set would be included there ....
Simply amazing what you can find on the web ;-)
-- HBP
7:09 p.m.
I've never seen one, but I'd rather not re-invent the wheel. Just
knowing
the command set is a starting point for even a PIC-based modern
replica.
ATDT Display Time
ATDD Display Date
ATRT Read Time
ATRD Read Date
ATLS set linefeed, otherwise only CR is sent at the end of a line
ATLC clear linefeed
atVTx set time separator (default is ':')
ATVDx set date separator (default is '/')
ATSThhmm00P set time to HH:MM:00:PM
ATSThhmm00A set time to HH:MM:00:AM
ATSDyymmdd set date
ATSWn set weekday to n (0=monday, etc)
ATAShhmmA set alarm to HH:MM AM
ATAShhmmP set alarm to HH:MM PM
ATAShhmm set alarm to hh:mm in 24 hour mode
g.
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Gene Buckle wrote:
ATDT Display Time
ATDD Display Date
ATRT Read Time
ATRD Read Date
ATLS set linefeed, otherwise only CR is sent at the end of a line
ATLC clear linefeed
atVTx set time separator (default is ':')
ATVDx set date separator (default is '/')
ATSThhmm00P set time to HH:MM:00:PM
ATSThhmm00A set time to HH:MM:00:AM
ATSDyymmdd set date
ATSWn set weekday to n (0=monday, etc)
ATAShhmmA set alarm to HH:MM AM
ATAShhmmP set alarm to HH:MM PM
ATAShhmm set alarm to hh:mm in 24 hour mode
I wonder if it's Y2K compliant? :)
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24 Jul
3:43 a.m.
--- Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Gene Buckle wrote:
I realize that was meant tongue-in-cheek, but since it does not appear to
attempt to set the day of the week on its own, it might fail on the transition
(not sure if it would rollover correctly, although it should), but it could
probably still be used after.
I still want one, as I'm sure several others here do, too.
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ATSDyymmdd set date
ATSWn set weekday to n (0=monday, etc)
I wonder if it's Y2K compliant? :)
7:06 a.m.
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I realize that was meant tongue-in-cheek, but since it
does not appear
to attempt to set the day of the week on its own, it might fail on the
transition (not sure if it would rollover correctly, although it
should), but it could probably still be used after.
I still want one, as I'm sure several others here do, too.
I bet with as much work as you described in setting up an infrared
communications network to beam the time signal to machines around the
room (cool idea BTW :) one could take an old Hayes 300/1200/2400 modem,
dump the EPROM, hack the code to replace various AT commands with the
Chronograph AT command set, add a clock/calendar chip to the board
somewhere, and roll your own Chronograph. You'd still have to add the
digital readout on the front, or maybe you can turn the status lights into
a binary clock output?
In the very least, it would make one killer exhibit for the VCF to show
what someone can do in their copious free time to reconstruct computing's
past :)
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8:36 a.m.
--- Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I bet with as much work as you described in setting up an infrared
communications network to beam the time signal to machines around the
room (cool idea BTW :)
Thanks.
one could take an old Hayes 300/1200/2400 modem,
dump the EPROM, hack the code to replace various AT commands with the
Chronograph AT command set, add a clock/calendar chip to the board
somewhere, and roll your own Chronograph. You'd still have to add the
digital readout on the front
I noticed from the picture from the cover of the manual that it is the same
style as a 1200-baud modem, but taller (to accomodate the display). It
looks about the same size as my Tecmar T-Disk case. I'd have to go look,
but it depends on which style of extruded aluminum case they used if it
could be expanded vertically. The width would be fixed by the size of the
top and bottom plates, but it might be possible to fit side risers.
In any case, I'm not sure where I'd get a compatible display. I also play
with LCD (and VFD) displays with the LCDproc project (lcdproc.omnipotent.net)
I have one 20x4 VFD and a couple 20x2 displays (so-called "Pole Displays"
for cash registers - RS-232 and 6VAC to drive them). It wouldn't look like
a Chronograph, but I could fit an IR emitter to the top of the Pole Display
(under a red lens) and set up receivers to pick up the time that way. I
presume if I used a carrier other than the one used by IrDA, I could still
use the link between my laptop and desktop. I suppose I would have to write
a PalmOS app to read the time.
This would be easy to prototype with a Pole display and a Linux box
with a few serial ports. I could at least do a proof-of-concept
prototype. I've also thought about turning an iOpener into a wall clock.
Then there is this wall-mount 486 I have with a 10" screen, two PCMCIA
slots, an ISA slot, internal HD, etc. I was just contemplating getting
a set of Diamond HomeFree cards (cheap) but didn't know if there were
Linux drivers for it or not.
...or maybe you can turn the status lights into a
binary clock output?
I'm an old hand with Binary Clocks (I've built several and even have
an interrupt driven software one for the PET that fits in the cassette
buffer and "draws" the clock face in the upper-left corner of the screen
that I wrote when I was 13 ;-) I'm even looking at one now on top of
my monitor at work (you should hear some of the comments I get).
So... while it's a nice idea in theory, unless you rotated the time through
a modem faceplate digit by digit, I don't see how you could fit it into
the case for a 1200-baud modem.
In the very least, it would make one killer exhibit
for the VCF to show
what someone can do in their copious free time to reconstruct computing's
past :)
It would be all of that. Now if only I could get some time off when one
of the VCFs is running. :-(
Lots of ideas, plenty of ways to roll it. No time.
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4:52 a.m.
ATSThhmm00P
set time to HH:MM:00:PM
ATSThhmm00A set time to HH:MM:00:AM
ATSDyymmdd set date
ATSWn set weekday to n (0=monday, etc)
ATAShhmmA set alarm to HH:MM AM
ATAShhmmP set alarm to HH:MM PM
ATAShhmm set alarm to hh:mm in 24 hour mode
I wonder if it's Y2K compliant? :)
25 Jul
25 Jul
4:54 a.m.
Ethan Dicks skrev:
Does anyone have the AT protocol spec for it? I've
always been interested
in the concept of a timekeeper that I could read/set from machines that
were not ethernet/NTP-capable. I've even sat around dreaming up ways to
build a wall clock that was settable and readable either via IR or some
serial connection so I'd have a chance of keeping things sync'ed around here.
If I ever did get an RS-232-based timekeeper, I'd think about throwing it on
a terminal server so everybody else on there could get to it.
I don't know what it's like in your part of the hemisphere, but there's an
atomic clock down in Germany which broadcasts its time. IUt's quite easy to
obtain clocks which rely on its signal, and I've seen designs for a similar
cartridge for the Atari ST. Can't remember whether it plugged into the
parallel or cartridge port.
Hmm, sounds very much like something that would be printed in Elektor or C't.
Anyway, that should be the optimal timekeeping device, assuming you can come
up with the hardware and that you're within reach of the transmitter.
--
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Hackers do it with fewer instructions.
26 Jul
26 Jul
4:46 a.m.
There used to be a lot of WWV receivers available to pick up time
from the NBS broadcasts, but they seem to have gone
away with the
arrival of GPS.
I wrote some software for a wwv receiver about 15 years (on topic
even!), but had to re-write it about 4 years ago when the receiver
died and was replaced with a stationary GPS box. Even pulled
Lat/Long/Alt from the GPS because I could :)
Clint
On 25 Jul 2001, Iggy Drougge wrote:
Ethan Dicks skrev:
Does anyone have the AT protocol spec for it?
I've always been interested
in the concept of a timekeeper that I could read/set from machines that
were not ethernet/NTP-capable. I've even sat around dreaming up ways to
build a wall clock that was settable and readable either via IR or some
serial connection so I'd have a chance of keeping things sync'ed around here.
If I ever did get an RS-232-based timekeeper, I'd think about throwing it on
a terminal server so everybody else on there could get to it.
I don't know what it's like in your part of the hemisphere, but there's an
atomic clock down in Germany which broadcasts its time. IUt's quite easy to
obtain clocks which rely on its signal, and I've seen designs for a similar
cartridge for the Atari ST. Can't remember whether it plugged into the
parallel or cartridge port.
Hmm, sounds very much like something that would be printed in Elektor or C't.
Anyway, that should be the optimal timekeeping device, assuming you can come
up with the hardware and that you're within reach of the transmitter.
--
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Hackers do it with fewer instructions.
5:53 a.m.
--- "Clint Wolff (VAX collector)" <vaxman(a)qwest.net> wrote:
There used to be a lot of WWV receivers available to pick up time
from the NBS broadcasts, but they seem to have gone away with the
arrival of GPS.
Good point. Rand-McNalley sells a laptop GPS for about $80 with no
software - PS/2 mouse port for power and DE-9 for data. I have one
that I use in the car and the airplane (I have a 9-pin null-modem
dongle so I can use the GPS with my Palm Pilot and GPS Pilot software).
I really should have remembered this - the first time I encountered using
GPS strictly as a time-base was on a NASA project to track the IMP-8 satellite
(launched over 30 years ago, so on-topic!). It's a solar wind satellite that
orbits about 100,000 miles up, outside the Van Allen belts. A consequence of
it being old is that it has no store-and-forward capability. It broadcasts
in real time (somewhere in the 2m band) so if you want the data, you'd better
be under it to catch it. I monitored the only IMP-8 ground station in the
Southern Hemisphere, at McMurdo Station, during the winter of 1995. The GPS
comes in because they needed to know *exactly* what time it was so the antenna
could track the satellite as it moved across the sky. It has a complex orbit;
there are no 2-line elements for it - we ftp'ed a file every week with the
anticipated azimuth/elevation numbers for a given time and the antenna
controller tracked it as it flew overhead. The antenna and positioners were
not a robust system (it broke several times due to the wind and cold), but the
PeeCee *did* always know what time it was.
-ethan
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5:08 a.m.
New subject: Broadcasting Atomic Clocks (was Re: hayes chronograph)
--- Iggy Drougge <optimus(a)canit.se> wrote:
Ethan Dicks skrev:
Not as nice as that...
Does anyone have the AT protocol spec for it?
I've always been interested
in the concept of a timekeeper that I could read/set from machines that
were not ethernet/NTP-capable...
I don't know what it's like in your part of the hemisphere... but there's an
atomic clock down in Germany which broadcasts its time. IUt's quite easy to
obtain clocks which rely on its signal
I have one. It's an add-on for a car with internal and external temp
sensors. I picked it up when I was in Munich last year and didn't
realize that you _can't_ set the time manually. I was figuring that it'd
be fun to have a thermometer, and the fact that we don't have the same
clock transmitter in the States wouldn't be a problem. It is. I have a
car thermometer that knows what time it is in Germany.
Anyway, that should be the optimal timekeeping device,
assuming you can come
up with the hardware and that you're within reach of the transmitter.
There is a transmitter in Colorado, but I am not aware of any hobby projects
to take advantage of it. They did start building VCRs that could set
themselves off of a time signal broadcast over PBS stations, but I think I
heard something about that being a failed program and being discontinued
at some point. When I heard about it, it suggested to me that if the
atomic clock radio signal had good propgation characteristics, they would
have used that instead of a time signal from a TV station, but perhaps it's
more an issue of Daylight Savings Time.
-ethan
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6:04 a.m.
New subject: Broadcasting Atomic Clocks (was Re: hayes chronograph)
Ethan Dicks wrote:
[snip]
There is a transmitter in Colorado, but I am not aware
of any hobby
projects
to take advantage of it. They did start building VCRs
that could set
themselves off of a time signal broadcast over PBS stations, but I think I
heard something about that being a failed program and being discontinued
at some point. When I heard about it, it suggested to me that if the
atomic clock radio signal had good propgation characteristics, they would
have used that instead of a time signal from a TV station, but perhaps
it's
more an issue of Daylight Savings Time.
[snip]
Actually, it's an issue of local time; having to enter a timezone or
timezone offset would have defeated the concept of a VCR that "set itself".
I believe the signal was (as with everything else) tossed somewhere in the
VIR and was broadcast by both commercial and PBS stations -- although by
far PBS had the greatest number of stations.
The system was problematic for two reasons: (a) oftentimes the stations
didn't maintain the timekeeping equipment (as in "the box is dead",
must less that the time had drifted and (b) much more subtly, in many
parts of the US the VCR would select a reference that was in a different
timezone than the user. This would result in the clock being off by an
hour (or for some folks in Arizona, off by an hour for part of the year).
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10:27 a.m.
New subject: Broadcasting Atomic Clocks (was Re: hayes chronograph)
There is a
transmitter in Colorado, but I am not aware of any hobby
projects
> to take advantage of it. They did start building VCRs that could set
timezone than the user. This would result in the clock being off by an
hour (or for some folks in Arizona, off by an hour for part of the year).
I have an alarm clock which sets itself from this signal. Of course the
first such clock (old enough to be on topic, even) AFAIK was the Heathkit
Most Accurate Clock. But those cost big bucks. Nowadays I'm seeing more
commercial clocks which do this, at reasonable prices.
WWV is broadcast on at least 5, 10 and 15 MHz (exactly); maybe other
frequencies too, I'm not sure. And I think some of the transmitters are
in other places besides Colorado, the idea being that everywhere in the US
you can always receive at least one of them. I'm not sure which freq(s)
these clocks listen to.
I have to set the time zone on this clock. Since "Arizona" isn't a choice,
I have to set it to MST in the winter and PST in the summer. When the
daylight-savings time begins or ends, the clock gets off by an hour.
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11:39 a.m.
New subject: Broadcasting Atomic Clocks (was Re: hayes chronograph)
I have an alarm clock which sets itself from this
signal. Of course the
first such clock (old enough to be on topic, even) AFAIK was the Heathkit
Most Accurate Clock. But those cost big bucks. Nowadays I'm seeing more
commercial clocks which do this, at reasonable prices.
My to-do list includes attaching a BASIC Stamp to the Chronograph with a
WWV module attached to the Stamp. Should work out pretty well. :)
g.
27 Jul
27 Jul
6:33 a.m.
New subject: Broadcasting Atomic Clocks
Hello,
At 07:27 PM 7/26/2001 +0000, Shawn T. Rutledge wrote:
I have an alarm clock which sets itself from this
signal. Of course the
first such clock (old enough to be on topic, even) AFAIK was the Heathkit
Most Accurate Clock. But those cost big bucks. Nowadays I'm seeing more
commercial clocks which do this, at reasonable prices.
I have a Radio Shack alarm clock that does this, they've been
on sale for $40 or so. I've even seen a big, wall-sized clock
at Costco that syncs to the broadcast time signal for $20.
The University of North Carolina just spent $20K or so outfitting
all of it's classrooms with this type of clock, I guess so the
students won't have an excuse for being late to the next class ;-)
WWV is broadcast on at least 5, 10 and 15 MHz
(exactly); maybe other
frequencies too, I'm not sure. And I think some of the transmitters are
in other places besides Colorado, the idea being that everywhere in the US
you can always receive at least one of them. I'm not sure which freq(s)
these clocks listen to.
Most (maybe all) of the "atomic-controlled" clocks sold as consumer products
synchronize to the WWVB transmissions on 60 KHz out of Ft. Collins,
Colorado. There is a nice description at the NIST web site:
http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/stations/wwvb.htm
Regards,
Alex Knight
The Calculator Museum Web Page
http://www.calcmuseum.com
26 Jul
26 Jul
1:55 p.m.
New subject: Broadcasting Atomic Clocks (was Re: hayes chronograph)
parts of the US the VCR would select a reference that
was in a different
timezone than the user. This would result in the clock being off by an
hour (or for some folks in Arizona, off by an hour for part of the year).
Our $69 Toshiba has this problem with our cable system, ie if it tracks
WTBS instead of KCAL or some other local station we have to play with
setting it manually to a local station. The simple solution would be for
ALL stations to transmit GMT and locally each person would set the offset,
but that may have some daylight savings time glitches.
I am a bit behind in reading my email, but I am surprized nobody is talking
about internet time servers, which I have been using for about 4 years.
11:18 a.m.
New subject: Broadcasting Atomic Clocks (was Re: hayes chronograph)
At 07:08 AM 26/07/2001 -0700, you wrote:
--- Iggy Drougge <optimus(a)canit.se> wrote:
Regards
Ethan Dicks skrev:
Not as nice as that...
Does anyone have the AT protocol spec for it?
I've always been interested
in the concept of a timekeeper that I could read/set from machines that
were not ethernet/NTP-capable...
I don't know what it's like in your part of the hemisphere... but there's an
atomic clock down in Germany which broadcasts its time. IUt's quite easy to
obtain clocks which rely on its signal
I have one. It's an add-on for a car with internal and external temp
sensors. I picked it up when I was in Munich last year and didn't
realize that you _can't_ set the time manually. I was figuring that it'd
be fun to have a thermometer, and the fact that we don't have the same
clock transmitter in the States wouldn't be a problem. It is. I have a
car thermometer that knows what time it is in Germany.
Anyway, that should be the optimal timekeeping
device, assuming you can
come
up with the hardware and that you're within
reach of the transmitter.
There is a transmitter in Colorado, but I am not aware of any hobby projects
to take advantage of it. They did start building VCRs that could set
themselves off of a time signal broadcast over PBS stations, but I think I
heard something about that being a failed program and being discontinued
at some point. When I heard about it, it suggested to me that if the
atomic clock radio signal had good propgation characteristics, they would
have used that instead of a time signal from a TV station, but perhaps it's
more an issue of Daylight Savings Time.
-ethan
Suggest you check out http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4, It
will set the time of your computer to any of a number of accurate
sources, US Navel Observatory, etc. When I got mine a few years ago, it
was a free download. Charlie Fox
Chas E. Fox Video Productions
793 Argyle Rd. Windsor ON N8Y 3J8
foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out:
Camcorder Kindergarten at http://chasfoxvideo.com
4:21 p.m.
New subject: epochs (was Re: Broadcasting Atomic Clocks)
--- "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net> wrote:
> Suggest you check out
http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4, It
> will set the time of your computer to any of a number of accurate
> sources, US Navel Observatory, etc.
I did. Thanks. One interesting thing is they reprint part of
RFC 868, "Time Protocol". It seems to specifiy unsigned 32-bit
time in seconds since 1-Jan-1900, 00:00 UTC as the basis for
timekeeping. What's interesting are the conversion constants they
provide in the RFC:
The server listens for a datagram on port 37. When a datagram arrives, the
server returns a datagram containing the 32-bit time value. If the server is
unable to determine the time at its site, it should discard the arriving
datagram and make no reply.
The Time
The time is the number of seconds since 00:00 (midnight) 1 January 1900 GMT,
such that the time 1 is 12:00:01 am on 1 January 1900 GMT; this base will
serve until the year 2036.
For example:
the time 2,208,988,800 corresponds to 00:00 1 Jan 1970 GMT,
2,398,291,200 corresponds to 00:00 1 Jan 1976 GMT,
2,524,521,600 corresponds to 00:00 1 Jan 1980 GMT,
2,629,584,000 corresponds to 00:00 1 May 1983 GMT,
and -1,297,728,000 corresponds to 00:00 17 Nov 1858 GMT.
OK... the first one is conversion to the UNIX epoch, the third is MS-DOS,
the fifth, VMS. What are numbers 2 and 4? Mac uses 1904 (I think to avoid
strange leap-year calculations - there are no dropped leap-years between
1904 and 2096, the years around then that skip are 1900 and 2100).
Any ideas on those other two?
-ethan
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27 Jul
12:32 a.m.
New subject: Broadcasting Atomic Clocks (was Re: hayes chronograph)
Ethan Dicks skrev:
--- Iggy Drougge <optimus(a)canit.se> wrote:
> but there's an
> atomic clock down in Germany which broadcasts its time. IUt's quite easy to
> obtain clocks which rely on its signal
I have one. It's an add-on for a car with internal
and external temp
sensors. I picked it up when I was in Munich last year and didn't
realize that you _can't_ set the time manually. I was figuring that it'd
be fun to have a thermometer, and the fact that we don't have the same
clock transmitter in the States wouldn't be a problem. It is. I have a
car thermometer that knows what time it is in Germany.
LOL. ^_^;;
> Anyway, that should be the optimal timekeeping
device, assuming you can
> come up with the hardware and that you're within reach of the transmitter.
There is a transmitter in Colorado, but I am not aware
of any hobby projects
to take advantage of it. They did start building VCRs that could set
themselves off of a time signal broadcast over PBS stations, but I think I
heard something about that being a failed program and being discontinued
at some point. When I heard about it, it suggested to me that if the
atomic clock radio signal had good propgation characteristics, they would
have used that instead of a time signal from a TV station, but perhaps it's
more an issue of Daylight Savings Time.
ISTR that teletext is not that common in the NTSC world (though there's
another system called closed-captioning, used for encoding text for the
hearing-impaired, which is sometimes used on laserdiscs as well), but just
about every PAL station has got teletext pages, which are accompanied by a
time signal. At least one of my VTRs may be set to fetch its time from any
preset station. And since teletext decoders must be one of the most common
homebrew projects of all time, adapting one of those could be another idea.
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
I can't understand ANY current MICROS~1 product names!
Are they now created with a random word generator?
What is the intent behind the name "Visual Studio" for their compiler suite?
What is "Interdev"?
Why is the Virus Transfer Protocol product named "Outlook"?
Grumpy Ol' Fred
23 Jul
23 Jul
7:05 p.m.
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:28:51 -0700 (PDT), Sellam Ismail wrote:
Yep. I got it from him too. *Huge Grin*
g.
(waves to Jeff)
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Bill Bradford wrote:
> Anybody know where I can find a Hayes Chronograph? I ran across
my
Smartmodem 300
(in original box!) in the garage the other day, and
it
showed the "companion" clock in a "stack" on the back of the box..
I"ve always wanted to find one..
I've only ever come across one, at a thrift store, and now it's part
of my
collection. Someone brought this subject up last year or so. They
are
fairly rare. Good luck! 
24 Jul
24 Jul
9:03 a.m.
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Mike Ford wrote:
But, I think even more scarce is my Hayes Transet 1000 Mailbox - circa
1985 - which I had not even heard of until I picked it up at a swap some
months back.
- don
Anybody know
where I can find a Hayes Chronograph? I ran across
At least half the list is looking and not finding one of those. Not even
eBay has turned one up.
10:23 a.m.
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Don Maslin wrote:
But, I think even more scarce is my Hayes Transet 1000
Mailbox - circa
1985 - which I had not even heard of until I picked it up at a swap
some months back.
Oooh, interesting. More details, please :)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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8:01 p.m.
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Don Maslin wrote:
Don't have a manual, therefore, don't have much. However,
the following ASCII clips may help:
985 BY HARMONY SYSTEMS, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION: Th
is code contains Confidential information or Trade Secrets, or both, which is th
e property of Harmony Systems, Inc. This code may not be copied, reproduced, re
duced to any electronic medium or machine readable form or otherwise duplicated
and the information herein may not be used, dissiminated or otherwise disclosed,
except with the prior written consent of Harmony Systems, Inc. ????????????????
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But, I think even more scarce is my Hayes Transet
1000 Mailbox - circa
1985 - which I had not even heard of until I picked it up at a swap
some months back.
Oooh, interesting. More details, please :) ?,|Sellam Ismail
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8:07 p.m.
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Don Maslin wrote:
Lacking a manual, the following ASCII segments may help.
- don
985 BY HARMONY SYSTEMS, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION: Th
is code contains Confidential information or Trade Secrets, or both, which is th
e property of Harmony Systems, Inc. This code may not be copied, reproduced, re
duced to any electronic medium or machine readable form or otherwise duplicated
and the information herein may not be used, dissiminated or otherwise disclosed,
except with the prior written consent of Harmony Systems, Inc. ????????????????
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But, I think even more scarce is my Hayes Transet
1000 Mailbox - circa
1985 - which I had not even heard of until I picked it up at a swap
some months back.
Oooh, interesting. More details, please :) Sellam Ismail
Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
25 Jul
25 Jul
5:01 a.m.
But, I think even more scarce is my Hayes Transet 1000
Mailbox - circa
1985 - which I had not even heard of until I picked it up at a swap some
months back.
Don, if it's in the same "stack" style case, wanna part with it? :)
I'm
trying to complete my collection. I need the 1200 and 2400 baud modems
too. :)
g.
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