> On 9/3/07, Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> There are 1 of these on eBay:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=14015246236…
>
> I want!
>
> Oh, it's in Oklahoma. It's got to weight >150lbs,
> no?
FWIW I believe the 5362 is a sublime machine. The machine architecture and
operating system are totally unlike the VMS/UNIX stuff many of us are used
to. The mainframe derived, yet somehow unique approach is weird and
wonderful... Even a familiarity with its descendant AS/400 won't quite give
the same thing. Just for example, the system runs in 8 bit
compartmentalised process spaces. The processors are 8 bit, but the
machines often have as much as 2 MB on them. So they've taken the concept
of memory windowing to something of an extreme. You can't program outside
the 64 MB RAM bounds without invoking a separate program in another memory
space. On the other hand, you have have as many applications running in
either shared or single instance mode as you have memory for. As a second
'for instance', there are actually 2 CPUs. One is more or less equivalent
to a channel controller in that it does all the IO. Truly, this is a
machine worth having. There has never been an emulator written to reflect
this architecture, so the only way you can really experience it is first
hand. Add to that the library/directory/file data storage paradym,
RPG/Basic/Cobol/Assembler as the programming languages, and an extensive
menu/terminal IO driven interface and you have something as un-cshell like
as I can imagine in a machine you are ever likely to actually possess.
Compared to this a PDP/11 running RT-11 (or the like) feels a pimped
version of CP/M. IMHOP: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... (I'm already ducking
my head for fear of the flaming retribution of the DEC collectors on the
list)
--- Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
Before I forget, and as I'm sure most already
know,
someone's been trying to give away a 5360 on
marketplace.vintage.org for sometime. I don't feel
like logging in, so I can't "see everything", so I
don't know if it's still available, but I imagine it
would be.
I bet Sridhar already has one, so you won't have to
fight him for it LOL LOL LOL.
Can't remember where it was located, I want to say
Connecticut, but I could very well be wrong.
Now I just happen to be the poor sap with this thundering albatross. After
making my pitch, and singing the platforms virtues let me ask, nee plead
for a new keeper to step foward. Here is the revised 'scoop'. I haven't
laid eyes on this system in at least 5 years. It's stored in a ground level
lock-up (garage door style) outside Hartford. I will give a copy of the
key to ANYONE who will relieve me of the storage rental. But that's ALL I
can give you. Over the years I have indeed tried to give away this system
to a number of well intentioned people. The problem is they always want me
help transport it. Well my ability to 'help' has descended from the
sublime to the ridiculous. I no longer living in the area (by which I mean
I live 4000 miles away in England and can be of no imaginable assistance at
all). Tempted? Drop me a mailing address and I will eagerly post you a
copy of the padlock key. From there... over to you. Do your best to
collect it (all of it, please). You MUST have (1) a forklift (2) a tail
lift (3) a team of oxen (a fraternity pledge class would be ideal). The
photo published on 'marketplace' is of the actual machine, just before I
moved it. The 'vette' in the background should give you a clear idea of
scale. Go on, I know you want to. Sridhar's no threat to your acquisition.
He wisely turned me down so long ago I imagine he's forgotten about it
altogether.
Thanks,
Colin Eby