13 Apr
2003
13 Apr
'03
8:09 a.m.
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
At 03:05 PM 4/12/03 -0400, you wrote:
You probably shouldn't say that, since it's wrong...
Can we keep political commentary off this list?
Especially mean-spirited partisan hate speech with no
data to back it up?
I want to hear about Classic Computers on this list.
Not someone's partisan hatred.
Thanks!
Al
And I thought the economy was in the toilet.
Only for the average citizen. The rich are richer
than ever thanks to Bush and administration (or
maybe I should say LACK of administration!)
Joe 
14 Apr
14 Apr
11:06 a.m.
New subject: Al, the idiot! was RE: Apple Lisa XL on eBay
Sorry to fan the flames but I suffered one of Al's meally mouthed attacks a couple
of days ago it's been eating at me. I kept silent till now but after hearing about his
attack on Sellam I feel that it's time I made a reply. See below.
At 10:06 AM 4/13/03 -0700, Al wrote:
Al, what are you, some king of F***** idiot? That certainly didn't qualify as hate
speech or "mean-spirited". As for backing it up, where have you been for the
last year? Did you miss the news that Enron, Adelphi, World Com and a number of other
companies have been looted and ruined by their own management? Not only did they wipe out
their companies but they also wiped out the life savings and retirements of tens of
thousands of their company employees and millions of stock holders. That's just one
example of the lack of administration that I was referring to. The gouging of the american
consumers by the oil companies is another. Gas prices have nearly doubled in the past six
months or have you been living in a cave somewhere and not noticed? In both cases the
perpetraitors are major supporters (read $$$$) of the Bush administartion. Don't get
me wrong, I'm a registered Republican, but I won't stand by and say nothing while
the Bush administration stands idlely by and lets their big dollar supporters rob the
american public. Why don't you ask the members of this list how many of them have lost
their jobs entirely or have had to take jobs far below their capabilities because of the
lousy economy and stock market?
If you wanted to hear about classic computers then why did you even reply to this
message, why didn't you just ignore it and go on? No one else felt it necessary to
jump in and grossly exaggerate what I said. Not only did you feel it necessary to mouth
off on the CC-Talk list but you also posted your batherings to the CC-Tech list! As a
matter of fact, I don't remember ever seeing a message from you that was about
computers. But you're always eager to but in and shot off your mouth when someone
expresses their opinion!
In the mean time, your village is looking for you!
Joe
PS you don't need to bother to reply, you've just been added to my permanent
kill-file.
<end of rant!>
From: Joe
<rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
At 03:05 PM 4/12/03 -0400, you wrote:
You probably shouldn't say that, since it's wrong...
Can we keep political commentary off this list?
Especially mean-spirited partisan hate speech with no
data to back it up?
I want to hear about Classic Computers on this list.
Not someone's partisan hatred.
Thanks!
Al
And I thought the economy was in the toilet.
Only for the average citizen. The rich are richer
than ever thanks to Bush and administration (or
maybe I should say LACK of administration!)
Joe 
9:21 p.m.
New subject: Al, the idiot! was RE: Apple Lisa XL on eBay
Sorry to fan the flames but I suffered one of
Al's meally
mouthed attacks a couple of days ago it's been eating at me.
I kept silent till now but after hearing about his attack on
Sellam I feel that it's time I made a reply. See below.
At 10:06 AM 4/13/03 -0700, Al wrote:
>> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>>
>> At 03:05 PM 4/12/03 -0400, you wrote:
>> >And I thought the economy was in the toilet.
>>
>> Only for the average citizen. The rich are richer
>> than ever thanks to Bush and administration (or
>> maybe I should say LACK of administration!)
>>
>> Joe
>
>You probably shouldn't say that, since it's wrong...
>
>Can we keep political commentary off this list?
>
>Especially mean-spirited partisan hate speech with no
>data to back it up?
>
>I want to hear about Classic Computers on this list.
>Not someone's partisan hatred.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Al
>
Al may well be an idiot, but so are those who think this list is a place
to discuss politics, or who so quickly take the bait when anyone else
does.
Those on the left and right political fringes (and we certainly seem to
have more than our fair share of those on this list) seem to see
political statements in what appear to be innocuous comments to the
politically unwashed. It seems that to certain members of the list, any
statement about "the economy" is pregnant with underlying political and
provides a legitimate "opening" for a political rejoinder. This is
opportunistic behavior that is destructive to the list.
There are political issues specifically relevant to classic computers
(e.g., abandonware, the DMCA, piracy, etc.) that, at least in theory,
should be open for list discussion. The problem is that we are pretty
lousy at doing this. Our discussions of these issues usually quickly
degenerate into personal insults, which in turn tend to generate a fair
amount of OT commentary to the dismay of most list members.
-W
11:06 a.m.
New subject: Al, the idiot! was RE: Apple Lisa XL on eBay
Sorry to fan the flames but I suffered one of Al's meally mouthed attacks a couple
of days ago it's been eating at me. I kept silent till now but after hearing about his
attack on Sellam I feel that it's time I made a reply. See below.
At 10:06 AM 4/13/03 -0700, Al wrote:
Al, what are you, some king of F***** idiot? That certainly didn't qualify as hate
speech or "mean-spirited". As for backing it up, where have you been for the
last year? Did you miss the news that Enron, Adelphi, World Com and a number of other
companies have been looted and ruined by their own management? Not only did they wipe out
their companies but they also wiped out the life savings and retirements of tens of
thousands of their company employees and millions of stock holders. That's just one
example of the lack of administration that I was referring to. The gouging of the american
consumers by the oil companies is another. Gas prices have nearly doubled in the past six
months or have you been living in a cave somewhere and not noticed? In both cases the
perpetraitors are major supporters (read $$$$) of the Bush administartion. Don't get
me wrong, I'm a registered Republican, but I won't stand by and say nothing while
the Bush administration stands idlely by and lets their big dollar supporters rob the
american public. Why don't you ask the members of this list how many of them have lost
their jobs entirely or have had to take jobs far below their capabilities because of the
lousy economy and stock market?
If you wanted to hear about classic computers then why did you even reply to this
message, why didn't you just ignore it and go on? No one else felt it necessary to
jump in and grossly exaggerate what I said. Not only did you feel it necessary to mouth
off on the CC-Talk list but you also posted your batherings to the CC-Tech list! As a
matter of fact, I don't remember ever seeing a message from you that was about
computers. But you're always eager to but in and shot off your mouth when someone
expresses their opinion!
In the mean time, your village is looking for you!
Joe
PS you don't need to bother to reply, you've just been added to my permanent
kill-file.
<end of rant!>
From: Joe
<rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
At 03:05 PM 4/12/03 -0400, you wrote:
You probably shouldn't say that, since it's wrong...
Can we keep political commentary off this list?
Especially mean-spirited partisan hate speech with no
data to back it up?
I want to hear about Classic Computers on this list.
Not someone's partisan hatred.
Thanks!
Al
And I thought the economy was in the toilet.
Only for the average citizen. The rich are richer
than ever thanks to Bush and administration (or
maybe I should say LACK of administration!)
Joe 
2:16 p.m.
New subject: Al, the idiot! was RE: Apple Lisa XL on eBay
Joe, you must be using your double gun today and you fired both
barrels simultaneously!
- don
On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Joe wrote:
Sorry to fan the flames but I suffered one of
Al's meally mouthed attacks a couple of days ago it's been eating at me. I kept
silent till now but after hearing about his attack on Sellam I feel that it's time I
made a reply. See below.
At 10:06 AM 4/13/03 -0700, Al wrote:
Al, what are you, some king of F***** idiot? That certainly didn't qualify as
hate speech or "mean-spirited". As for backing it up, where have you been for
the last year? Did you miss the news that Enron, Adelphi, World Com and a number of other
companies have been looted and ruined by their own management? Not only did they wipe out
their companies but they also wiped out the life savings and retirements of tens of
thousands of their company employees and millions of stock holders. That's just one
example of the lack of administration that I was referring to. The gouging of the american
consumers by the oil companies is another. Gas prices have nearly doubled in the past six
months or have you been living in a cave somewhere and not noticed? In both cases the
perpetraitors are major supporters (read $$$$) of the Bush administartion. Don't get
me wrong, I'm a registered Republican, but I won't stand by and say nothing while
the Bush administration stands idlely by and!
l!
From: Joe
<rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
At 03:05 PM 4/12/03 -0400, you wrote:
You probably shouldn't say that, since it's wrong...
Can we keep political commentary off this list?
Especially mean-spirited partisan hate speech with no
data to back it up?
I want to hear about Classic Computers on this list.
Not someone's partisan hatred.
Thanks!
Al
And I thought the economy was in the toilet.
Only for the average citizen. The rich are richer
than ever thanks to Bush and administration (or
maybe I should say LACK of administration!)
Joe ets their big dollar supporters rob the american
public. Why don't you ask the members of this list how many of them have lost their
jobs entirely or have had to take jobs far below their capabilities because of the lousy
economy and stock market?
If you wanted to hear about classic computers then why did you even reply to this
message, why didn't you just ignore it and go on? No one else felt it necessary to
jump in and grossly exaggerate what I said. Not only did you feel it necessary to mouth
off on the CC-Talk list but you also posted your batherings to the CC-Tech list! As a
matter of fact, I don't remember ever seeing a message from you that was about
computers. But you're always eager to but in and shot off your mouth when someone
expresses their opinion!
In the mean time, your village is looking for you!
Joe
PS you don't need to bother to reply, you've just been added to my permanent
kill-file.
<end of rant!>
2:58 p.m.
New subject: Al, the idiot! was RE: Apple Lisa XL on eBay
Hi Don,
Yeah, like I said this has been eating at me for a couple of days. I try to be very
carefull and precise about what I say and it REALLY pisses me off to have someone accuse
me of saying something like that. Or in this case grossly over exaggerating what I said.
My apologies to anyone else on the list that I might have offended.
Joe
At 04:14 PM 4/14/03 -0700, you wrote:
Joe, you must be using your double gun today and you
fired both
barrels simultaneously!
- don
On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Joe wrote:
> Sorry to fan the flames but I suffered one of Al's meally mouthed attacks a
couple of days ago it's been eating at me. I kept silent till now but after hearing
about his attack on Sellam I feel that it's time I made a reply. See below.
>
> At 10:06 AM 4/13/03 -0700, Al wrote:
> >> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
> >>
> >> At 03:05 PM 4/12/03 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >And I thought the economy was in the toilet.
> >>
> >> Only for the average citizen. The rich are richer
> >> than ever thanks to Bush and administration (or
> >> maybe I should say LACK of administration!)
> >>
> >> Joe
> >
> >You probably shouldn't say that, since it's wrong...
> >
> >Can we keep political commentary off this list?
> >
> >Especially mean-spirited partisan hate speech with no
> >data to back it up?
> >
> >I want to hear about Classic Computers on this list.
> >Not someone's partisan hatred.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Al
> >
>
> Al, what are you, some king of F***** idiot? That certainly didn't qualify as
hate speech or "mean-spirited". As for backing it up, where have you been for
the last year? Did you miss the news that Enron, Adelphi, World Com and a number of other
companies have been looted and ruined by their own management? Not only did they wipe out
their companies but they also wiped out the life savings and retirements of tens of
thousands of their company employees and millions of stock holders. That's just one
example of the lack of administration that I was referring to. The gouging of the american
consumers by the oil companies is another. Gas prices have nearly doubled in the past six
months or have you been living in a cave somewhere and not noticed? In both cases the
perpetraitors are major supporters (read $$$$) of the Bush administartion. Don't get
me wrong, I'm a registered Republican, but I won't stand by and say nothing while
the Bush administration stands idlely by an!
d!
l!
> ets their big dollar supporters rob the american public. Why don't you ask the
members of this list how many of them have lost their jobs entirely or have had to take
jobs far below their capabilities because of the lousy economy and stock market?
>
> If you wanted to hear about classic computers then why did you even reply to this
message, why didn't you just ignore it and go on? No one else felt it necessary to
jump in and grossly exaggerate what I said. Not only did you feel it necessary to mouth
off on the CC-Talk list but you also posted your batherings to the CC-Tech list! As a
matter of fact, I don't remember ever seeing a message from you that was about
computers. But you're always eager to but in and shot off your mouth when someone
expresses their opinion!
>
> In the mean time, your village is looking for you!
>
> Joe
>
> PS you don't need to bother to reply, you've just been added to my
permanent kill-file.
>
> <end of rant!>
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