Lisa C and Lisa FORTRAN - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

9 May 2010

On 9 May 2010, at 00:02, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:

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 Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 13:26:17 -0400
 From: Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com>
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 technically, looms count, they have to, to know how many times to do a particular
pattern.
 that would make such programming language back into the 17th century at least ;) 

I think you have missed the point that this is a discussion of high level languages. I
have not heard that any 17th century loom had a high level language.

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  Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 01:00:14 -0600
 From: bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca
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 Subject: Re: Lisa C and Lisa FORTRAN

 Dan Gahlinger wrote:

  Fortran the first high-level language, I think
that would be open to
 debate. Indeed, wikipedia says otherwise... and I quote:

 The first high-level programming language to be designed for a
 computer was Plankalk?l, developed for the German Z3 by Konrad Zuse
 between 1943 and 1945.

 LISP, COBOL and Algol are also mentioned during the 1950s, so "first"
 is perhaps debateable. Do we count the programmable "Looms" ?  
 Only if they can count. :)

  There are questions I can't answer at this
time. I can just say, from
 memory, Valtrep was more "primitive" than Fortran, and yet, very
 "fortran-like", as I said, if you could program Fortran, Valtrep
 would be easy to pick up.  It seems to me unlikely, that you would have any other
high level
 programs other than a possible assembler and link loader with a few
 odd utility closed subroutines.

  I can't find any information on it, nor can I
find any information on
 the computer system it ran on (that's bad).

 so to be fair, I'll mark this and file it as
"questionable"/"suspect"
 until some evidence can be shown either way.  
  Dan.
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