New subject: Quote attribution (was: Mac SE?

16 Apr 2007

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 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:57:13 +0200
From: Joost van de Griek <jvdg at sparcpark.net> 
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 On 4/15/07 5:39 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:

   One of the Freecyclers here is having no luck
giving away a Mac SE
  (not the SE/30).  Is this considered to be a collectible?  With an
  8MHz 68000 and 1 MB of memory, I can't see that it'd actually be
  useful for a lot these days. 
SE's are plentiful and I wouldn't consider them collectible. They're also
uglier than the Mac 128K/512K/Plus, while lacking the SE/30's "incredible
power in a small package" appeal (SE/30's make great servers when packed
with RAM and *BSD).

Unless you "gotta catch 'em all" or you want a compact Mac to play around
with and there are no other models to be found, skip it. 
However, except for the logic board, the SE is compatible/identical 
with the SE/30.   So, if you need parts for your SE/30, or have a 
good SE/30 logic board and need a chassis, then a Mac SE is an 
excellent and usually affordable sacrificial victim.

The one caveat to the above is that the first revision SEs came with 
an 800K floppy drive while later models came with the 1.44 MB 
"superdrive" and the SE/30s all came with the 1.44 MB floppy.   So 
some early SEs' chassis will differ from an SE/30 in the floppy drive.

Oh, and an aside which some may find useful.  Most SE/30s have 
leaking electrolytic capacitors by this time.  So if one does decide 
to collect an SE/30 (or if one has one sitting unused) it would be a 
prudent move to desolder the SM electrolytic caps, clean the 
motherboard, and install tantalum caps in their place.   Many SE/30s 
no longer have working sound or simply fail to boot up at all because 
of leaking caps.  Left untended the goo from the caps will/can 
disolve important traces, pads, solder or pins on the logic board.

Jeff Walther