So what's the deal with that? The Cisco wants to route to some IP address, fair enough just make the target of that IP address another router that happens to be running NAT, a Firewall, etc. A VAX works great for this, or an old PC, or a junked laptop, etc. You don't need port forwarding to run a server, you only need either a static IP address or a rendezvous protocol for finding your server. --Chuck