I'm sorry I have to add to this, this is WAY WAY WAY OT but because this has been taken to all new levels. The argument about the USS Yorktown has nothing to do with Microsoft or windows. This has to do with boats. The people who are commenting on the fact that they do not completely believe the story that the ship needed to be towed. These people are not Microsoft kool aid drinkers, they are people that do not believe that the naval ship needed to be towed back, because the ships are built to be run manually if needed. Why? Ship propulsion systems do have manual controls, because even the best systems fail. So, if the systems fail, the engineers on board get them running manually and you get the ship back. This has nothing to do with windows, this has to do with how Naval ships are built. The Yorktown was commissioned in 1984, the incident happened in 1997. So this is not a brand new ship and they 99.9999% chance had ways of manually bringing the ship back to port. I mean seriously, do you in your right mind think they removed all the manual controls and just stuck a bunch of Windows NT machines? Again this has nothing to do with Windows, this has to do with naval personal being able to run the ship manually back to port. Anthony DiGiorgio who wrote the scathing report and was the person who stated NT was not up to the job, stated that the GCN misquoted him. So it is not a kool aid drinker that stated this. The person WHO stated that NT was the problem stated that it didn't need to be towed back. As for the news reports, it seems it all stems from one comment in the issue of Government Computer News. All the links seem to quote off that article. Some people are so blind with hatred against something (Microsoft, Apple, Linux, add your own) that they can seem to see what other people are saying. So if you don't believe the story, then YOU MUST be a Microsoft Kool-Aid drinker. If you are not for us, you are against us attitude. You know, there are different flavors of cool aid out there and over the last day or so I can see who has been drinking what.. I am going to make a nice glass of vintage CP/M kool aid myself and try and get my Northstar running and maybe find documents for my Wameco. If anyone would like to join in, I would be happy to pour.