17 Aug
1998
17 Aug
'98
7:06 p.m.
At 12:40 AM 8/16/98 +0100, you wrote:
engine, transmission, hydraulics (it's a Citroen
with hydraulic
Omigawd... You poor soul you... Here, let me send you an Altair to make
up for your suffering! 8^) (The french should make love, not cars.)
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
17 Aug
17 Aug
8:44 p.m.
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18 Aug
18 Aug
7:26 p.m.
At 02:44 AM 8/18/98 +0100, Tony wrote:
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years), it's reliable. And it's no harder to
work on, given the manual
than anything else.
Yes, well that's the problem. Most people here in the US won't even read
their car's owner's manual much less go BUY a service manual and read it!
Joe
(who has a service manual for every car he owns and some even for cars he
doesn't own.)
6:39 p.m.
New subject: For Trade: 11/24 CPU and 512k Unibus Memory Card
I have the following that came from a DEC Communications Server:
M7133 KDF11-UA U 11/24 CPU board, line clock & 2 SLUs
(Revision D or earlier)
M8743-AA MDECS-AA U 512-Kbyte ECC RAM
(Also M8743-AB, -AC, -AD, -AE, -AF, -AH, -AJ,
-AK,
-AL, -AM, -AN, -AP, -AV)
Although I'm uncertain of the equitability of such a trade, I'm mostly
interested in a Q-Bus ethernet board for my MicroVax II. From the
communications server I already got a Unibus ethernet controller:
M7792 DEUNA U DEUNA port module, UNIBUS to ethernet
microprocessor. (1 of 2)
M7793 DEUNA U DEUNA link module, M7792 to ethernet bus
line unit. (2 of 2)
So I'd like to lay my hands on a controller for the MVII so I can put my
PDP-11/84 and the MVII on my in-house ethernet.
I'll also consider other interesting trades. Because I'm frequently
miserable about getting stuff shipped out to people, and assuming I know
you from the list, I'll send the boards BEFORE you ship your part to me.
I haven't burned anyone yet but there's one person who has a legitimate
beef with me. I'm not evil...just slow.
Thanks...
Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
7:54 p.m.
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11:15 p.m.
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
snip
Yep... I have the official manuals for the cars my
father has owned since
I started seriously working on them, manuals for vehicles I'd like to own
one day (Land Rovers, older Citroens, etc), and manuals for vehicles that
have unusual designs (Manumatic transmission, Wilson Preselector
transmission, etc). Nowhere near as many manuals as my computer
documentation, but still a fairly large shelf.
The Wilson Preselector, as I recall it, qualifies as a direct ancestor of
the current genre of transmissions used in the present Formula 1
machines. Obviously there are differences in operation, but they were a
generation or so ahead of everyone else. I recall them from the early
sixties, and they were not new then!
- don
-tony
19 Aug
19 Aug
4:06 p.m.
On 19 Aug 98 at 1:54, Tony Duell wrote:
At 02:44 AM 8/18/98 +0100, Tony wrote:
Yep. And then there are those home-mechanic manuals (Haynes, etc) that
are often worse-than-useless. The diagrams in later ones come out of the
official manuals, but they miss out some of them, and they forget to
explain some of the symbols (!). And they often miss out bits that they think
you won't be able to do at home (automatic transmision, electronic engine
management, some of the other electrical bits, some of the more complex
hydraulic bits, major bodywork repairs, etc). Sorry, but I'll decide what
I can fix
The manufacturers shop manual (for anything, car, computer, electronic
equipment) is always worth buying IMHO...
>
years), it's reliable. And it's no harder
to work on, given the manual
than anything else.
Yes, well that's the problem. Most people here in the US won't even read
their car's owner's manual much less go BUY a service manual and read it!
Joe
(who has a service manual for every car he owns and some even for cars he
doesn't own.)
Yep... I have the official manuals for the cars my father has owned since
I started seriously working on them, manuals for vehicles I'd like to own
one day (Land Rovers, older Citroens, etc), and manuals for vehicles that
have unusual designs (Manumatic transmission, Wilson Preselector
transmission, etc). Nowhere near as many manuals as my computer
documentation, but still a fairly large shelf. -tony
Hmm, I must have smaller horizons. Bicycle manuals and micros rather
than car manuals and minis. :^))
But I too almost always did my own car repair. I don't like using things
I can't understand and/or repair. Part of why I got into electronics.
I've pulled heads, replaced drive boxes, and most things that didn't require
expensive equipment. I once fabricated a wooden brake pad to replace a
shattered one as an emergency measure when travelling in a remote mountainous
region. Worked okay. Shop manuals were always my guide. I threw out a bunch of
Chiltons once in frustration at how sketchy they are.
I only wish I was as good at el. tech. as I am at older cars or Constuction.
The field is so vast tho that it's difficult to be encyclopaedic. The shape of
things to come, I guess.
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
20 Aug
20 Aug
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