6 Jun
2012
6 Jun
'12
6:48 a.m.
I have 2 count them 2 Zenith minisports with 2.5 inch drives. Now thats unusual. No disks
though.
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On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:37 PM PDT David Griffith wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 5 Jun 2012 at 18:17, David Ryskalczyk wrote:
I'm looking for other unusual floppy drives, but even these Kodaks are
hard enough to find.
I do have a 6.6MB Kodak drive (and media). It looks a lot like the
3.3.
How about some photos and a write-up? They would be nice to add that to
Wikipedia's articles on floppy disks.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? 
6 Jun
6 Jun
8:31 a.m.
On 6 Jun 2012 at 6:48, Chris Tofu wrote:
I have 2 count them 2 Zenith minisports with 2.5 inch drives. Now
thats unusual. No disks though. ------------------------------
Yup, I've seen them. AFAIK, the Minisport was the only widely-
available system to use them, unless there was an early digicam. No
radical advance in technology, just a different physical size.
--Chuck
9:59 a.m.
On 6 Jun 2012 at 6:48, Chris Tofu wrote:
> I have 2 count them 2 Zenith minisports with 2.5 inch drives. Now
> thats unusual. No disks though. ------------------------------
On Wed, 6 Jun
2012, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Yup, I've seen them. AFAIK, the Minisport was the
only widely-
available system to use them, unless there was an early digicam. No
radical advance in technology, just a different physical size.
Wasn't there a camera (Canon?) that used them? Or was that a DIFFERENT
2.5"? - there were several competing 2.5" (and a 2.9" spiral) technologies
being shown around that time.
"Market research studies, and Bernie Zilbergeld, say that it is 'TOO
small'"
Wonder whether they ever adapted to SD and MICRO-SD?
All media in that size range should have a hole through it (center or
corner) to string them together on a key-ring.
11:02 a.m.
On 6 Jun 2012 at 9:59, Fred Cisin wrote:
Wasn't there a camera (Canon?) that used them? Or
was that a
DIFFERENT 2.5"? - there were several competing 2.5" (and a 2.9"
spiral) technologies being shown around that time.
Well, we still have hard-disk Microdrives (e.g. IBM, Seagate, Qrisma)
that fall into that category, even if they're sealed units. 3.25"
floppies were a particularly bad idea--there's no way they'd survive
long carried in a shirt pocket.
All media in that size range should have a hole
through it (center or
corner) to string them together on a key-ring.
MicroSD is indeed too smal in my experience. I have a jar sitting on
my desk here that holds SD and MicroSD (and MMC) chips. Otherwise,
I'd lose them in a drawer.
As far as hanging off a keyring, I've long thought that was a bad
idea, if you actually have keys on the same ring, as well as coins in
the same pocket.
If I look at the keys on my keyring, several have had the nickel
plating abraded off simply from being carried around. I'm on my
fourth or fifth mini tape-measure, others having been chewed up and I
never could get a keyring LED to hold up for more than a couple of
months.
But even for an old guy, I'm pretty active. Office-chair pilots and
couch potatoes may get better mileage from their pocket memory
devices.
--Chuck
1:35 p.m.
> Wasn't there a camera (Canon?) that used
them? Or was that a
> DIFFERENT 2.5"? - there were several competing 2.5" (and a 2.9"
> spiral) technologies being shown around that time.
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Well, we still have hard-disk Microdrives (e.g. IBM,
Seagate, Qrisma)
that fall into that category, even if they're sealed units.
I was just referring to the floppies. There were a bucnch of competing
ones introduced around the same time. Few survivors.
3.25" floppies were a particularly bad
idea--there's no way they'd
survive long carried in a shirt pocket.
The first big battle was, indeed over "shirt pocket". George Morrow
suggested cutting a deal with the garment industry to change shirt pocket
size!
My take is that Dysan "bet the company" in order to avoid retooling for a
different kind of jacket.
Many "experts" declared that the winner would be the one with the most
software available. So, Dysan spent everything to create a whole new
software publishing structure, with availability of most of the BIG name
software products on 3.25". There was a brief period of time, where,
although I couldn't get a machine that came with that drive, I COULD
purchase Lotus, Wordstar, WordPervert, Weird, dBase, Supercalc, etc. on
3.25" diskettes! The "experts" were very thoroughly WRONG, and the only
machine that reached market that I know of was the Seequa Chameleon 325.
All media in
that size range should have a hole through it (center or
corner) to string them together on a key-ring.
MicroSD is indeed too smalL in my
experience. I have a jar sitting on
my desk here that holds SD and MicroSD (and MMC) chips. Otherwise,
I'd lose them in a drawer.
As far as hanging off a keyring, I've long thought that was a bad
idea, if you actually have keys on the same ring, as well as coins in
the same pocket. But even for an old guy, I'm pretty active.
Office-chair pilots and
couch potatoes may get better mileage from their pocket memory
devices.
SO, give me those media with a hole!
1:58 p.m.
On 6 Jun 2012 at 13:35, Fred Cisin wrote:
The first big battle was, indeed over "shirt
pocket". George Morrow
suggested cutting a deal with the garment industry to change shirt
pocket size!
Not as silly as it sounds. My newest jacket (the type with a zipper
on it that you wear to keep warm and dry) has a cellphone/iPod pocket
on the sleeve. 3.5" floppies fit it nicely.
--Chuck
7 Jun
7 Jun
11:55 a.m.
Not as silly as it sounds. My newest jacket (the type
with a zipper
on it that you wear to keep warm and dry) has a cellphone/iPod pocket
on the sleeve. 3.5" floppies fit it nicely.
My raincoat has a pocket that the ideal size for 3.5" disks, another one
for 5.25" disks and a pair for 8" disks ;-) Alas no pocket large enough
for RK05 packs.
-tony
6 Jun
6 Jun
4:10 p.m.
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Fred Cisin wrote:
The Canon Xapshot took a VFD or Video Floppy Disk. The disk measured
roughly 2.5" and stored analogue still images. This was fairly rare, but
was much more common than the LT1 disk that the Zenith Minisport took.
There was another 2.5"-ish disk called the QuickDisk which had a single
track in a spiral. This was most commonly found in word processors,
musical equipment, and the Japanese version of the NES.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
On 6 Jun 2012
at 6:48, Chris Tofu wrote:
> I have 2 count them 2 Zenith minisports with 2.5 inch drives. Now
> thats unusual. No disks though. ------------------------------
On Wed, 6 Jun
2012, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Yup, I've seen them. AFAIK, the Minisport
was the only widely-
available system to use them, unless there was an early digicam. No
radical advance in technology, just a different physical size.
Wasn't there a camera (Canon?) that used them? Or was that a DIFFERENT
2.5"? - there were several competing 2.5" (and a 2.9" spiral)
technologies
being shown around that time.
3:59 p.m.
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Chris Tofu wrote:
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:37 PM PDT David Griffith
wrote:
A naked drive might be fun to put up. I've already put an image of a disk
on Wikipedia.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I have 2 count them 2 Zenith minisports
with 2.5 inch drives. Now thats
unusual. No disks though. On 5 Jun 2012 at 18:17, David Ryskalczyk wrote:
I'm looking for other unusual floppy drives, but even these Kodaks are
hard enough to find.
I do have a 6.6MB Kodak drive (and media). It looks a lot like the
3.3.
How about some photos and a write-up? They would be nice to add that to
Wikipedia's articles on floppy disks.
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