8 Jul
2003
8 Jul
'03
3:49 a.m.
Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie? It was one of the
80-column models.
Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers were.
-Frank
8 Jul
8 Jul
4:07 a.m.
I haven't seen it yet, but Captain Kirk owns one! Check out Star Trek
II... in his apartment...
At 08:45 08/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie?
It was one of the
80-column models.
Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers were.
-Frank
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------]
10 Jul
10 Jul
7:28 a.m.
In the Canadian Movie "Trudeau" about the former Canadian Prime minister,
you can spot 3 PETs. One Chicklet PET, a Super PET 9000 and a CBM 8032 with
disk drive.
The production team rented them two years ago from my museum.
PETs are awesome movie props :)
Herbert
on 7/8/03 9:03 AM, Mark Firestone at nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com wrote:
I haven't seen it yet, but Captain Kirk owns one!
Check out Star Trek
II... in his apartment...
At 08:45 08/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Anyone else spot that one near the end of the
movie? It was one of the
80-column models.
Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers were.
-Frank
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------] 
7:58 a.m.
Whats it cost to rent computers?
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Design Fort DTP" <design.fort(a)ns.sympatico.ca>
To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3
In the Canadian Movie "Trudeau" about the
former Canadian Prime minister,
you can spot 3 PETs. One Chicklet PET, a Super PET 9000 and a CBM 8032
with
disk drive.
The production team rented them two years ago from my museum.
PETs are awesome movie props :)
Herbert
on 7/8/03 9:03 AM, Mark Firestone at nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com wrote:
> I haven't seen it yet, but Captain Kirk owns one! Check out Star Trek
> II... in his apartment...
>
> At 08:45 08/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>> Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie? It was one of the
>> 80-column models.
>> Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers were.
>>
>> -Frank
>
> [---------]
> "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> "But they're so delicious."
>
> Website: retrobbs.org
> BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> [---------]
11 Jul
11 Jul
1:40 a.m.
Cool! I'll check that out. Someone in CA is supposed to ship a IMASAI
8080 to my parents house, so I can get them to ship it to the UK. I can't
wait... wargames here I come!
At 13:23 10/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
In the Canadian Movie "Trudeau" about the
former Canadian Prime minister,
you can spot 3 PETs. One Chicklet PET, a Super PET 9000 and a CBM 8032 with
disk drive.
The production team rented them two years ago from my museum.
PETs are awesome movie props :)
Herbert
on 7/8/03 9:03 AM, Mark Firestone at nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com wrote:
> I haven't seen it yet, but Captain Kirk owns one! Check out Star Trek
> II... in his apartment...
>
> At 08:45 08/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>> Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie? It was one of the
>> 80-column models.
>> Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers were.
>>
>> -Frank
>
> [---------]
> "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> "But they're so delicious."
>
> Website: retrobbs.org
> BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> [---------]
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------]
15 Jul
15 Jul
8:13 p.m.
Congrats on your Imsai Mark!
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
Please check our web site at
http://www.smecc.org
to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
address:
coury house / smecc
5802 w palmaire ave
glendale az 85301
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3
Cool! I'll check that out. Someone in CA is
supposed to ship a IMASAI
8080 to my parents house, so I can get them to ship it to the UK. I can't
wait... wargames here I come!
At 13:23 10/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>In the Canadian Movie "Trudeau" about the former Canadian Prime minister,
>you can spot 3 PETs. One Chicklet PET, a Super PET 9000 and a CBM 8032
with
>disk drive.
>The production team rented them two years ago from my museum.
>
>PETs are awesome movie props :)
>
>Herbert
>
>on 7/8/03 9:03 AM, Mark Firestone at nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com wrote:
>
> > I haven't seen it yet, but Captain Kirk owns one! Check out Star Trek
> > II... in his apartment...
> >
> > At 08:45 08/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >> Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie? It was one of
the
>>
80-column models.
>> Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers were.
>>
>> -Frank
>
> [---------]
> "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> "But they're so delicious."
>
> Website: retrobbs.org
> BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> [---------]
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------]
16 Jul
16 Jul
12:21 a.m.
Thanks Ed! I can't wait till he sends it to my folks... and they send it
on to me here in the UK.
Say, you're an old time BBSer. I think you even used to call my
board. I'm going to be in town from the 29th to the 6th, and we are having
a party at Paul Nicolaides house on Saturday.
I'll definitely stop by Corey house and say hi, but I was wondering if you
fancied turning up at Paul's on Saturday night? The invitation extends to
anyone else on the list who finds themselves (or lives) in Phoenix ...
Take Care,
Mark
At 22:08 15/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Congrats on your Imsai Mark!
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
Please check our web site at
http://www.smecc.org
to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
address:
coury house / smecc
5802 w palmaire ave
glendale az 85301
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------]
Cool! I'll check that out. Someone in CA is
supposed to ship a IMASAI
8080 to my parents house, so I can get them to ship it to the UK. I can't
wait... wargames here I come!
At 13:23 10/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>In the Canadian Movie "Trudeau" about the former Canadian Prime minister,
>you can spot 3 PETs. One Chicklet PET, a Super PET 9000 and a CBM 8032
with
>disk drive.
>The production team rented them two years ago from my museum.
>
>PETs are awesome movie props :)
>
>Herbert
>
>on 7/8/03 9:03 AM, Mark Firestone at nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com wrote:
>
> > I haven't seen it yet, but Captain Kirk owns one! Check out Star Trek
> > II... in his apartment...
> >
> > At 08:45 08/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >> Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie? It was one of
the
> > >> 80-column models.
> > >> Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers
were.
> > >>
> > >> -Frank
> > >
> > > [---------]
> > > "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> > > "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> > > "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> > > "But they're so delicious."
> > >
> > > Website: retrobbs.org
> > > BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> > > Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> > > [---------]
>
> [---------]
> "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> "But they're so delicious."
>
> Website: retrobbs.org
> BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> [---------]
7:51 a.m.
Hi Mark!
It would be tricky to carry the Imsai on the plane as carry on luggage!
I remember the good ol' pre 911 days when I would walk on the plane with
whimhurst machines, pieces of old radar sets... etc.... ( whimhurst machine
makes static electricity.... has counter revolving glass plates lyden jars
stc....)
You are welcome to stop by, the July - aug timeframe is our main
construction time here at the museum but if there are safe paths happy to
show you though!
Here in Arizona of course we have opposite tourist seasons from he rest of
the world it seems.... winter good summer echchch ( 116 degrees the
other day) so summer time is work on the building and displays time. to
get ready for September October!
Thank you for the invitation Mark, may not make the event on Sat. night as I
am usually by the end of the day pretty grimy, dehydrated and tired! but...
please do stop by and visit.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3
Thanks Ed! I can't wait till he sends it to my
folks... and they send it
on to me here in the UK.
Say, you're an old time BBSer. I think you even used to call my
board. I'm going to be in town from the 29th to the 6th, and we are
having
a party at Paul Nicolaides house on Saturday.
I'll definitely stop by Corey house and say hi, but I was wondering if you
fancied turning up at Paul's on Saturday night? The invitation extends to
anyone else on the list who finds themselves (or lives) in Phoenix ...
Take Care,
Mark
At 22:08 15/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Congrats on your Imsai Mark!
>
>Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
>
>Please check our web site at
> http://www.smecc.org
>to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
>buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
>
>address:
>
> coury house / smecc
>5802 w palmaire ave
>glendale az 85301
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
>To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:36 AM
>Subject: Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3
>
>
> > Cool! I'll check that out. Someone in CA is supposed to ship a
IMASAI
> > 8080 to my parents house, so I can get them
to ship it to the UK. I
can't
> > wait... wargames here I come!
> >
> >
> > At 13:23 10/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > >In the Canadian Movie "Trudeau" about the former Canadian Prime
minister,
> > >you can spot 3 PETs. One Chicklet PET, a
Super PET 9000 and a CBM
8032
>with
> > >disk drive.
> > >The production team rented them two years ago from my museum.
> > >
> > >PETs are awesome movie props :)
> > >
> > >Herbert
> > >
> > >on 7/8/03 9:03 AM, Mark Firestone at nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com
wrote:
> > >
> > > > I haven't seen it yet, but Captain Kirk owns one! Check out Star
Trek
> > > > II... in his apartment...
> > > >
> > > > At 08:45 08/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >> Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie? It was one
of
the
> > >> 80-column models.
> > >> Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers
were.
> > >>
> > >> -Frank
> > >
> > > [---------]
> > > "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> > > "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> > > "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> > > "But they're so delicious."
> > >
> > > Website: retrobbs.org
> > > BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> > > Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> > > [---------]
>
> [---------]
> "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> "But they're so delicious."
>
> Website: retrobbs.org
> BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> [---------]
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------] 
9:01 a.m.
New subject: Was: Commodore CBM/PET Now: Reply Trim Rant
Hey Ed - are you going to be travelling up to the Fort Tuthill Annual Ham
Swapmeet in Flagstaff this year? (July 25th, 26, 27th) If so, I and
Marvin Johnston will be there. Last year we got some good classiccmp type
items - also brought a load to sell.
This invite also goes out to other interested classiccmpers. I'll also
publish an announcement shortly.
<usual small rant _on>
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Ed Sharpe wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
Hey Guyz - not to squelch List traffic, nor appear to be a NetCop - but
d'ya think it might be possible to try and
TRIM YER DAMN REPLY CASCADES????
I mean, 152 lines of triple-posted reply threads, including three copies
of somebody's asinine sig... and I read all this, already, already,
already.
Please be aware that some of us (me included) read the list via an ASCII
terminal emulator under a Unix shell account - and that more than one of
our Listmembers in Countries Other Than the US (remember them?) pay for
thier Internet access *By The Byte*... so this really pisses them off.
</rant>
Cheerz
John
At 22:08 15/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Congrats on your Imsai Mark!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
> > > [---------]
>
[---------]
9:41 a.m.
New subject: Commodore CBM/PET Now: Reply Trim Rant
Hi!
Have not gone in years...
may not make it this year although the thrill of hunting for more stuff and
meeting some of you would be interesting!
ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lawson" <jpl15(a)panix.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:57 AM
Subject: Was: Commodore CBM/PET Now: Reply Trim Rant
Hey Ed - are you going to be travelling up to the Fort
Tuthill Annual Ham
Swapmeet in Flagstaff this year? (July 25th, 26, 27th) If so, I and
Marvin Johnston will be there. Last year we got some good classiccmp type
items - also brought a load to sell.
This invite also goes out to other interested classiccmpers. I'll also
publish an announcement shortly.
<usual small rant _on>
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Ed Sharpe wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
Hey Guyz - not to squelch List traffic, nor appear to be a NetCop - but
d'ya think it might be possible to try and
TRIM YER DAMN REPLY CASCADES????
I mean, 152 lines of triple-posted reply threads, including three copies
of somebody's asinine sig... and I read all this, already, already,
already.
Please be aware that some of us (me included) read the list via an ASCII
terminal emulator under a Unix shell account - and that more than one of
our Listmembers in Countries Other Than the US (remember them?) pay for
thier Internet access *By The Byte*... so this really pisses them off.
</rant>
Cheerz
John At 22:08 15/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Congrats on your Imsai Mark!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
> > > [---------]
>
[---------]
17 Jul
17 Jul
10:12 p.m.
I'll stop by. It must be fifteen years sense I ran into you last.... Wow...
I'm sure they'd have that poor computer in bits, (heh, pun intended) and
still wouldn't let me on the plane with it. I wonder if I could get away
with checked baggage... I tried that with a big clock in a duffel bag at
Manchester (UK) airport, years ago. I got all my bags emptied in front of
me for the trouble.
"Tell me about this clock, sir."
It was obviously not a terrorist device, didn't have sticks of dynamite
attached, or anything. I bet it's twice as bad now!
Ed, tell us about this picture, for the web site and all!
http://retrobbs.org/pictures/edsharpe/edsharpe.html
At 10:47 16/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Mark!
It would be tricky to carry the Imsai on the plane as carry on luggage!
I remember the good ol' pre 911 days when I would walk on the plane with
whimhurst machines, pieces of old radar sets... etc.... ( whimhurst machine
makes static electricity.... has counter revolving glass plates lyden jars
stc....)
You are welcome to stop by, the July - aug timeframe is our main
construction time here at the museum but if there are safe paths happy to
show you though!
Here in Arizona of course we have opposite tourist seasons from he rest of
the world it seems.... winter good summer echchch ( 116 degrees the
other day) so summer time is work on the building and displays time. to
get ready for September October!
Thank you for the invitation Mark, may not make the event on Sat. night as I
am usually by the end of the day pretty grimy, dehydrated and tired! but...
please do stop by and visit.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3
[---------]
"Homer, we don't have to have sex."
"Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
"Deserts aren't always right Homer."
"But they're so delicious."
Website: retrobbs.org
BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
[---------]
Thanks Ed! I can't wait till he sends it to
my folks... and they send it
on to me here in the UK.
Say, you're an old time BBSer. I think you even used to call my
board. I'm going to be in town from the 29th to the 6th, and we are
having
a party at Paul Nicolaides house on Saturday.
I'll definitely stop by Corey house and say hi, but I was wondering if you
fancied turning up at Paul's on Saturday night? The invitation extends to
anyone else on the list who finds themselves (or lives) in Phoenix ...
Take Care,
Mark
At 22:08 15/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Congrats on your Imsai Mark!
>
>Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
>
>Please check our web site at
> http://www.smecc.org
>to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we
>buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us.
>
>address:
>
> coury house / smecc
>5802 w palmaire ave
>glendale az 85301
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Firestone" <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com>
>To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:36 AM
>Subject: Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3
>
>
> > Cool! I'll check that out. Someone in CA is supposed to ship a
IMASAI
> > 8080 to my parents house, so I can get
them to ship it to the UK. I
can't
> > wait... wargames here I come!
> >
> >
> > At 13:23 10/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > >In the Canadian Movie "Trudeau" about the former Canadian Prime
minister,
> > >you can spot 3 PETs. One Chicklet
PET, a Super PET 9000 and a CBM
8032
>with
> > >disk drive.
> > >The production team rented them two years ago from my museum.
> > >
> > >PETs are awesome movie props :)
> > >
> > >Herbert
> > >
> > >on 7/8/03 9:03 AM, Mark Firestone at nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com
wrote:
> > >
> > > > I haven't seen it yet, but Captain Kirk owns one! Check out Star
Trek
> > > > II... in his apartment...
> > > >
> > > > At 08:45 08/07/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >> Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie? It was one
of
> >the
> > > > >> 80-column models.
> > > > >> Not sure what any of the other "30-year old"
computers were.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -Frank
> > > > >
> > > > > [---------]
> > > > > "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> > > > > "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> > > > > "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> > > > > "But they're so delicious."
> > > > >
> > > > > Website: retrobbs.org
> > > > > BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> > > > > Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> > > > > [---------]
> > >
> > > [---------]
> > > "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> > > "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> > > "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> > > "But they're so delicious."
> > >
> > > Website: retrobbs.org
> > > BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> > > Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> > > [---------]
>
> [---------]
> "Homer, we don't have to have sex."
> "Yes we do, the cookie told me so."
> "Deserts aren't always right Homer."
> "But they're so delicious."
>
> Website: retrobbs.org
> BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323
> Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org
> [---------] 
20 Jul
20 Jul
9:15 a.m.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Mark Firestone wrote:
I'm sure they'd have that poor computer in
bits, (heh, pun intended) and
still wouldn't let me on the plane with it. I wonder if I could get away
with checked baggage... I tried that with a big clock in a duffel bag at
Manchester (UK) airport, years ago. I got all my bags emptied in front of
me for the trouble.
I brought a rather large East German computer from Germany to the US in
November of 2001. I got pulled aside in the UK just before boarding my
transfer flight to answer questions about it. I had to open the boxes
and show the security personnel what was inside. I explained who I was
and what I did, and after looking for a bit they must've concluded I
wasn't a terrorist and sent me on my way.
(At least they held the plane for me :)
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *
11:42 a.m.
At 11:05 AM 7/20/03 -0700, you wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Mark Firestone wrote:
I visited Kansas last year and meet up with Gary Hildebrand and he
showed me some of the local computer sources. In Topeka I found a black
Bell&Howell Apple II at a scrap place. I bought it and brought it home with
me. At the KC airport they inspected my bags and the Apple II. They wanted
to send me over to a maintenance area to have them disassemble the computer
so that they could inspect it. Luckily the cover just pops off the Apple II
so I was able to open it up and show them that there was nothing inside. I
guess they haven't discovered X-ray machines in KC yet!
Joe
I'm sure they'd have that poor computer
in bits, (heh, pun intended) and
still wouldn't let me on the plane with it. I wonder if I could get away
with checked baggage... I tried that with a big clock in a duffel bag at
Manchester (UK) airport, years ago. I got all my bags emptied in front of
me for the trouble.
I brought a rather large East German computer from Germany to the US in
November of 2001. I got pulled aside in the UK just before boarding my
transfer flight to answer questions about it. I had to open the boxes
and show the security personnel what was inside. I explained who I was
and what I did, and after looking for a bit they must've concluded I
wasn't a terrorist and sent me on my way.
(At least they held the plane for me :)
23 Jul
23 Jul
3:30 a.m.
They had computers in East Germany? Wow. What was it, some sort of Soviet
PDP clone or something?
At 11:05 20/07/2003 -0700, Sellam Ismail
wrote:
I brought a rather large East German computer from
Germany to the US in
November of 2001. I got pulled aside in the UK just before boarding my
transfer flight to answer questions about it. I had to open the boxes
and show the security personnel what was inside. I explained who I was
and what I did, and after looking for a bit they must've concluded I
wasn't a terrorist and sent me on my way.
(At least they held the plane for me :)
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Mark Firestone wrote:
They had computers in East Germany? Wow. What was
it, some sort of Soviet
PDP clone or something?
They had computers throughout the former Soviet Union. You'd be amazed at
the number of clones of western computers that were produced, not to
mention original designs throughout the Union in the various satellite
states.
The computer I got was by a company called Robotron, which was a fairly
large East German computer manufacturer. They did indeed produce a clone
of the PDP-11. One of these systems is on display at the Computer History
Museum.
The computer I have is a Robotron A5120. It's based on a cloned 8080
microprocessor. It has an 8" floppy disks built into the cabinet along
with the CRT. It's a heavy beast. I also got an additional chassis with
two more 8" drives, plus the main computer had a naked 5.25" rigged up to
it.
Here's a website with more information (in Deutsch) and a picture of what
it looks like. The one I have is the one on the left.
http://www.robotron-net.de/pc_s.html
Scroll down for even more cool designs.
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6:14 a.m.
Please tell me (us) more about the PDP-11 clones? Do you have any
model numbers, pictures, or web sites for them?
--tom
At 07:51 AM 7/23/2003 -0700, you wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Mark Firestone wrote:
They had computers in East Germany? Wow. What
was it, some sort of Soviet
PDP clone or something?
They had computers throughout the former Soviet Union. You'd be amazed at
the number of clones of western computers that were produced, not to
mention original designs throughout the Union in the various satellite
states.
The computer I got was by a company called Robotron, which was a fairly
large East German computer manufacturer. They did indeed produce a clone
of the PDP-11. One of these systems is on display at the Computer History
Museum.
The computer I have is a Robotron A5120. It's based on a cloned 8080
microprocessor. It has an 8" floppy disks built into the cabinet along
with the CRT. It's a heavy beast. I also got an additional chassis with
two more 8" drives, plus the main computer had a naked 5.25" rigged up to
it.
Here's a website with more information (in Deutsch) and a picture of what
it looks like. The one I have is the one on the left.
http://www.robotron-net.de/pc_s.html
Scroll down for even more cool designs.
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9:28 a.m.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Tom Uban wrote:
Please tell me (us) more about the PDP-11 clones? Do
you have any
model numbers, pictures, or web sites for them?
I don't have much more information, but here's a photo of the beast at the
CHM:
http://www.digibarn.com/history/first-chm-visit/Image24.jpg
Once Hans Franke is back and catches up with his messages then he may be
able to provide some more data.
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9:22 a.m.
New subject: Russian computers? (was: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Mark Firestone wrote:
> They had computers in East Germany? Wow. What was it, some sort of Soviet
> PDP clone or something?
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
They had computers throughout the former Soviet Union.
You'd be amazed at
the number of clones of western computers that were produced, not to
mention original designs throughout the Union in the various satellite
states.
about a decade ago, when Lee Felsenstein was doing his campaign to
liberate Russia by giving the people microcomputers, ...
I did some disk format conversion of some Russian microcomputer disks from
a machine that was either made by Okidata, or copied from it. I never saw
the computer itself, just the diskettes. They had some Oki BIOS code in
track 0 (boot track), but with messsages tranlated into Russian and padded
out to replace the previous message. They used a MICROS~1 "Stand-Alone
BASIC" directory structure, like what NEC did, that later got modified
into the Coco directory. (and which was what inspired Patterson to use
the F.A.T. system in DOS, and the 400K/800K Mac directory structure)
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8 Jul
8 Jul
6:14 p.m.
Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie?
It was one of the
80-column models.
Yeah, I noticed that. I'm wondering which computer John Connor knocked on
the ground, though. It looked like an early X-term of some vintage.
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cisin＠xenosoft.com -
design.fort＠ns.sympatico.ca -
esharpe＠uswest.net -
jpl15＠panix.com -
nedry＠mail.bedlambells.com -
palazzol＠comcast.net -
rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com -
spectre＠floodgap.com -
teoz＠neo.rr.com -
uban＠ubanproductions.com -
vcf＠siconic.com