Rumor has it that CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com may have mentioned these words: I won't dispute that for a second... and I agree with you here, as well... but: $69USD for a 2x Acer CD-ROM??? We sell Creative 48X's for $65 and make a decent profit at that... $9.59USD for 1 CD-R Media??? We sell 'em $15 for a box of 10... $259USD for an Intel 9600 bps PCMCIA modem??? Surely, they must realize that no-one in their right minds are going to pay those prices... Just FYI... a few more redeemers: Click on the "computers" link (where I was expecting to see IBM/AT's for $4000 each... ;-) and you'll see: $ 35 Tano Dragon Process Control Computer Kit Actually, a copy of the Radio Shack Color Computer, completely packaged in a consumer case. Computer includes: motherboard, keyboard, memory, power supply and case. This 6809 based computer is called the Tano Dragon. ==================================== Click on the "software" link and you'll see: $ 9 Digital Research CP/M Long before Bill Gates, Long before Microsoft--there was Digital Research. Gary Kildall authored CP/M, the operating system that launched the micro computer. Several years ago, Gary died mysteriously at a young age. The remnants of Gary's company, Digital Research, were acquired by Novell. Digital Research is now only a memory to those who were into computers before the Microsoft monopoly. Regardless, California Digital has 2000 licensed copies of CP/M with complete documentation. CP/M was the most recognized microcomputer disk operating system in the world. In fact Digital Research controlled over 70% of the microcomputer market. There are still thousands of systems operating under CP/M. Original Digital Research price was $259. Make offer on quantities of 100 plus. ==================================== And yes... $2000 for an electrostatic plotter really isn't a bad deal, if you actually need one of these monsters. Oh, some of their X-10 stuff looks like it might be cheaper than RS, too... tho that ain't saying much. HTH, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

This defines a whole class of "surplus" dealers, and its fine with me, but I don't ever buy there unless I just have to have some left hand widget nobody else could provide. Legacy suppliers are what I call them. They buy up complete old parts inventories and milk them for the last dime.