1 Sep
2003
1 Sep
'03
7:23 p.m.
As I picked up from the reactions it would be best to put a PDP11 on-line
with UNIX on his disks to make usable images of the tape
Are there somewhere on the web unix distributions for PDP11?
And how do I get it on a tape?
Luc
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Verzonden: maandag 1 september 2003 21:32
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: Digital DSM Disribution tape
The way would be to do one copy of the tape contents in one virtual tape
available to use with one of the PDP11 simulators availables. I use SIMH
and I should like to manage DSM some time :-)
Cheers
Sergio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luc Vande Velde" <luc(a)e2t.be>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:21 PM
Subject: Digital DSM Disribution tape
Someone asked a few weeks ago for a copy of the DSM
distribution
tape.(9track 1600bpi)
I found it back this afternoon (by accident in a search for some other old
stuff)
To make it clear - this is the native version of DSM (Digital Standard
Mumps) version 3.3
and it runs only on PDP11 not on vax or other PDP's
Min. machine on UNIBUS = 11/40 on QBUS = 11/23
If someone can tell me how to make it available I have my ears wide open;
or
if someone is willing to do that's even better
gr.
Luc
1 Sep
1 Sep
9:09 p.m.
On 2003.09.02 09:15 Luc Vande Velde wrote:
As I picked up from the reactions it would be best to
put a PDP11
on-line with UNIX on his disks to make usable images of the tape
Are there somewhere on the web unix distributions for PDP11?
http://www.pups.org/
or http://www.tuhs.org/
And how do I get it on a tape?
There is a
programm called "maketape" in the 2.11BSD distribution. I
used it with great success to write PDP-11 and VAX BSD tapes. Of corse
this requires that you have a machine with a suitable tape drive, *IX
like OS (for maketape) and network (to get the distfiles onto it) at
hand. I created my 2.11BSD tapes on the QBus PDP-11 machine. I replaced
PDP-11 CPU and RAM with VAX CPU and RAM, netbooted NetBSD, wrote the
tapes, remounted the PDP-11 CPU and RAM and started the installation.
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
11:04 p.m.
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Jochen Kunz wrote:
Just another plug: I have (so far) archived about 900 tapes (TK50,TK70
and magtapes) into TDF file format, which is basically a superset of
the wellknown E11/SimH "tap" format supporting tape label info (what
was written on the paper labels), block and file CRC checking, and
compression.
It takes E11 about a minute to fully install an ULTRIX-11 V3.2 tape
this way ;-)
Cheers,
Fred
And how do I
get it on a tape?
There is a programm called "maketape" in the 2.11BSD
distribution. I
used it with great success to write PDP-11 and VAX BSD tapes. Of corse
this requires that you have a machine with a suitable tape drive, *IX
like OS (for maketape) and network (to get the distfiles onto it) at
hand. I created my 2.11BSD tapes on the QBus PDP-11 machine. I replaced
PDP-11 CPU and RAM with VAX CPU and RAM, netbooted NetBSD, wrote the
tapes, remounted the PDP-11 CPU and RAM and started the installation.
2 Sep
2 Sep
noon
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
Hi all,
YAY! Took me a while to find it, but today marked the arrival
of my DEC RoamAbout wireless-LAN gear... a truly fun bit of
stuff to have.
(I already have Cisco Aironet on the main network, but hoped
to be able to add DEC-branded stuff to the VAXlab network...which
now came true!)
If anyone happens to have RoamAbout stuff laying around, and
would be willing to part with it, pse let me know!
Cheers,
Fred
12:11 p.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
Hi all,
YAY! Took me a while to find it, but today marked the arrival
of my DEC RoamAbout wireless-LAN gear... a truly fun bit of
stuff to have.
(I already have Cisco Aironet on the main network, but hoped
to be able to add DEC-branded stuff to the VAXlab network...which
now came true!)
If anyone happens to have RoamAbout stuff laying around, and
would be willing to part with it, pse let me know!
Crap, Fred, there were 5 or 6 cards and a couple of base stations at
the local Goodwill for months. None of my DEC stuff is PCMCIA-era, so I
never paid it any mind. :\
12:20 p.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Doc Shipley wrote:
Crap, Fred, there were 5 or 6 cards and a couple of
base stations at
the local Goodwill for months. None of my DEC stuff is PCMCIA-era, so I
never paid it any mind. :\
Aargh! And I just forked a fortune (relatively
speaking..) for
just one card and a base station(+card) ...
*SIGH*
--fred (in tis-not-fair mode..)
12:32 p.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Doc Shipley wrote:
I have to roll up that way tomorrow. I'll see if they still have any
of it.
I must be getting old - it never occured to me that anything wireless
was old enough to be interesting....
Doc
Crap, Fred, there were 5 or 6 cards and a
couple of base stations at
the local Goodwill for months. None of my DEC stuff is PCMCIA-era, so I
never paid it any mind. :\
Aargh! And I just forked a fortune (relatively speaking..) for
just one card and a base station(+card) ...
*SIGH*
1:05 p.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Doc Shipley wrote:
I have to roll up that way tomorrow. I'll see
if they still have any
of it.
Ooooh, that would be good! :)
I must be getting old - it never occured to me that
anything wireless
was old enough to be interesting....
Well, first of all, networking is my
"field" .. so, yes, I am
interested in how it was done earlier (yes, I worked with the
old 3Mbps Ethernet... :)
The RoamAbout stuff, like most other DEC Networking stuff I have
(both old, like the DELNI's and DS200's, and newer, like this
thing, and the DEChub 900 stuff I am looking for, is just so I
can extend VAXlab (my DEC network) into "original hardware"
for the network gear as well as the machines:
VXT2000+ X terminal (okokok, with 17" Iiyama color mon.. ;-)
VAX servers (with OpenBSD/vax, incl. XDM display service)
DS200 term/console servers
DELNI ethernet hubs (yes, I need more AUI cables... anyone?)
InfoServer boot support for VXT and CDROMs
several VAX, PDP11, DECstation and Alpha boxes
recently added: several notebooks
and now: wireless LAN ;-)
The network core is still cisco (catalyst switch, simple hub
and a 2501 router) but I have a bunch of DECnis routers
awaiting a new life...
-f
3 Sep
3 Sep
1:53 a.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
"Fred N. van Kempen" wrote:
DELNI ethernet hubs (yes, I need more AUI cables... anyone?)
I think I can help out here, I have a bunch here in New Haven, CT, USA.
And 2 DELNIs I want to get rid of also...
--
--- Dave Woyciesjes
--- ICQ# 905818
8:58 a.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
I must be getting old - it never occured to me that
anything wireless
was old enough to be interesting....
The Roamabout stuff appeared pretty early on in the days of wireless
networking - it's possibly even legitimately on-topic (although I'd
have to go dig out some product catalogues to be sure one way or
the other).
At some stage, the firmware was upgraded to be 802.11b compliant,
so a true collector seeking the authentic feel of mid-90s wlan
will want to get hold of the older firmware.
(Don't look at me - I have no Roamabouts AFAIK).
Antonio
--
---------------
Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org
6:36 a.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
Hi all,
YAY! Took me a while to find it, but today marked the arrival
of my DEC RoamAbout wireless-LAN gear... a truly fun bit of
stuff to have.
(I already have Cisco Aironet on the main network, but hoped
to be able to add DEC-branded stuff to the VAXlab network...which
now came true!)
If anyone happens to have RoamAbout stuff laying around, and
would be willing to part with it, pse let me know!
Cheers,
Fred
I hava a baseport missing the PCMCIA card that anyone can have for shipping
costs... I may have an (flat square)antenna somewhere also
Peter Wallace
7:25 a.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
I hava a baseport missing the PCMCIA card that anyone
can have for shipping
costs... I may have an (flat square)antenna somewhere also
Peter,
I think I'm interested in this. I'm going to be in the north Berkeley
area this early afternoon. If you get this, please call me and I can
swing by:
925/216-0569
Thanks!
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1:26 p.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
I hava a baseport missing the PCMCIA card that anyone
can have for shipping
costs... I may have an (flat square)antenna somewhere also
Oooh! That would be
great, but from what I have read, Sellam beat
me to it....
[.. which reminds me, gotta beat him (up) a lil next time I'm there..]
--f
--
Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist
Visit the VAXlab Project at http://www.pdp11.nl/VAXlab/
Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/
Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Sunnyvale, CA, USA
3:18 p.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
Actually Eric Dittman beat him to it, but you can still beat up Sellam...
I hava a baseport missing the PCMCIA card that
anyone can have for shipping
costs... I may have an (flat square)antenna somewhere also
Oooh! That would be
great, but from what I have read, Sellam beat
me to it....
[.. which reminds me, gotta beat him (up) a lil next time I'm there..]
--f
--
Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist
Visit the VAXlab Project at http://www.pdp11.nl/VAXlab/
Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/
Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Peter Wallace
4 Sep
4 Sep
1:37 a.m.
New subject: Cool addition: DEC RoamAbout !
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
Actually Eric Dittman beat him to it, but you can
still beat up Sellam...
Ohh! Can I? Can I?
*jumps up and down, Donkey-style*
Duh. Eric beat me to the goodies. Bah.
--fred (pouty)
2 Sep
2 Sep
12:43 a.m.
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Luc Vande Velde wrote:
As I picked up from the reactions it would be best to
put a PDP11
on-line with UNIX on his disks to make usable images of the tape
Yup.
Are there somewhere on the web unix distributions for
PDP11?
And how do I get it on a tape?
Yup, I can send or bring you 2.9BSD, 2.11BSD and/or
ULTRIX-11,
the latter of which I actually maintain myself ;-)
--f
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