1 Mar
2001
1 Mar
'01
7:56 a.m.
>>>> "Paul" == Paul Thompson
<thompson(a)mail.athenet.net> writes:
Paul> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
> Did VMS have a built in utility that allowed to 1)
time how
> long a given user was logged in, and/or 2) track what
> directories on the VAX the user entered?
Paul> Two potential answers ACC/FULL/SINCE=whenever/USER=
Paul> You could probably use ANAL/AUDIT to check what directories
Paul> were entered but would need to have set up the ACL's ahead
Paul> of time.
Obviously not wanting to raise a UNIX vs VAX war, I was just
wondering whether that kind of tracking would be possible using
UNIX... Any suggestions/comments?
Cheers,
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1 Mar
1 Mar
2:01 p.m.
Unix is less of a given. If a machine is running the vendor's 'enhanced
security' very granular auditing can often be done if enabled ahead of
time.
My 10 year old Ultrix 4.2a machine running enhanced security was able to
track the directories I entered, although that functionality evaporated
after Y2K since the DEC Y2k fixes for auditing and accounting only
applied to 4.3a and above.
Otherwise on plain security unix 'last' will give login times, and looking
in the .sh_history might indicate whether someone went in a directory if
they have not taken the time to edit the commands out.
Drifting ever more off topic, there is some new package for AIX and
solaris which is supposed to make the machine virtually uncrackable by
taking away root's godliness and replacing it with a VMS-like privilege
system. Apparently it has stood up well to a hacker challenge.
On 1 Mar 2001, Rodrigo Ventura wrote:
Obviously not wanting to raise a UNIX vs VAX
war, I was just
wondering whether that kind of tracking would be possible using
UNIX... Any suggestions/comments?
Cheers,
16 Mar
16 Mar
8:31 a.m.
New subject: Interesting Wall St. Journal article today
On the front page was an article about how ignoring the current web
trendiness and sticking with a traditional minicomputer and established
sales techniques has worked well for various companies. The article talks
about the AS/400 but the it is true for VMS, MPE or whatever.
Sorry the details are sketchy but I don't have it in front of me.
--
18 Mar
18 Mar
7:11 a.m.
New subject: Interesting Wall St. Journal article today
Whats MPE?
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Paul Thompson wrote:
On the front page was an article about how ignoring the current web
trendiness and sticking with a traditional minicomputer and established
sales techniques has worked well for various companies. The article talks
about the AS/400 but the it is true for VMS, MPE or whatever.
Sorry the details are sketchy but I don't have it in front of me.
--
7:47 a.m.
New subject: Interesting Wall St. Journal article today
Whats MPE?
MultiProgramming Execution - OS for the HP3000 line of business
minicomputers. See http://jazz.external.hp.com/ and
http://www.docs.hp.com/mpeix/all/ and http://www.mpeixservers.hp.com/.
Lee Courtney
President
Monterey Software Group Inc.
1350 Pear Avenue, Suite J
Mountain View, California 94043-1302 U.S.A.
650-964-7052 voice
650-964-6735 fax
Advanced Authentication, Audit, and Access Control Tools and Consulting for
HP3000 Business Servers
http://www.editcorp.com/Businesses/MontereySoftware
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Old Stuff Discount
> Warehouse
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 1:12 PM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Interesting Wall St. Journal article today
>
>
Whats MPE?
>
> Chad Fernandez
> Michigan, USA
>
> Paul Thompson wrote:
> >
> > On the front page was an article about how ignoring the current web
> > trendiness and sticking with a traditional minicomputer and established
> > sales techniques has worked well for various companies. The
> article talks
> > about the AS/400 but the it is true for VMS, MPE or whatever.
> >
> > Sorry the details are sketchy but I don't have it in front of me.
> >
> > --
>
8:19 a.m.
New subject: Oops! MPE Correction
My fat fingers mis-typed:
How embarassing, I can;t believe I made THAT mistake ;-)! MPE =
MultiProgramming Executive (not Execution)
Lee Courtney
President
Monterey Software Group Inc.
1350 Pear Avenue, Suite J
Mountain View, California 94043-1302 U.S.A.
650-964-7052 voice
650-964-6735 fax
Advanced Authentication, Audit, and Access Control Tools and Consulting for
HP3000 Business Servers
http://www.editcorp.com/Businesses/MontereySoftware
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Lee Courtney
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 1:48 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Interesting Wall St. Journal article today
Whats MPE?
MultiProgramming Execution - OS for the HP3000 line of business
minicomputers. See http://jazz.external.hp.com/ and
http://www.docs.hp.com/mpeix/all/ and http://www.mpeixservers.hp.com/.
Lee Courtney
President
Monterey Software Group Inc.
1350 Pear Avenue, Suite J
Mountain View, California 94043-1302 U.S.A.
650-964-7052 voice
650-964-6735 fax
Advanced Authentication, Audit, and Access Control Tools and
Consulting for
HP3000 Business Servers
http://www.editcorp.com/Businesses/MontereySoftware
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Old Stuff Discount
> Warehouse
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 1:12 PM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Interesting Wall St. Journal article today
>
>
Whats MPE?
>
> Chad Fernandez
> Michigan, USA
>
> Paul Thompson wrote:
> >
> > On the front page was an article about how ignoring the current web
> > trendiness and sticking with a traditional minicomputer and
established
sales
techniques has worked well for various companies. The
article talks
about the AS/400 but the it is true for VMS, MPE
or whatever.
Sorry the details are sketchy but I don't have it in front of me.
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