Sellam: I'm sorry you took my reply (and others) as a "personal assault" and yes, perhaps I should have prefaced them with a paean to your indeed considerable contributions to the CC community; I did NOT say that you are "only" in it for the money, nor do I see any problem with your generating income that helps defray your costs and/or puts $$s in your pocket. More power to ya! I was just reminding Evan ("The man just wants some reassurance that his time and hard work will be appreciated. What's wrong with that? More people in our hobby should be that devoted!") that money was also a factor: I wasn't offended by your language per se, but by the contempt and lack of consideration it expresses for the members of this list and the fact that you are blaming us for the VCM not becoming a viable revenue generator. I thought I was also offering you what I thought was constructive criticism, that perhaps your time and energy might be better spent in promoting VCM instead of alienating at least some of your potential customers by ranting at us for not beating a path to your door . FWIW, the same thing happened between you and me back when we were talking about some things I was going to send you; your talking to me in the same manner made me decide that I didn't really care to deal with you. But if it works for you to alienate people, good luck to ya. mike cc: Sellam