11 Oct
1998
11 Oct
'98
1:59 p.m.
My dad recently came accros some intresting stuff at a county auction.
I wasn't there or he would have baught more stuff :-) but however he did
find some keyboards that look like they came from a terminal and a
computer. Does WYSE ring a bell to anyone? But the biggest enigma is an
IBM 4224 printer which from the diagram on the back look like it was
made for some sort of LAN, but not ethernet. The plug it would take
would be about an inch in diameter. This was previously used by the
board of elections and in that case was probably was wired in some sort
of esotaric network. The other puzzel is an ethernet card that is
deffentatily not 10 years old but just bear with me. The face plate
already is a dead give away that it is not made for a PC. The other
thing is that the interface to the computer uses a plug that has 3 rows
of 32 pins. Could any one tell me wat this interface is, and what I
could do to adapt this to be used by a PC's serial poart? Another find
was in the tons of IBM formated disks I found an original wang floppy
disk but without the orginal format :-( Thats all for now.
12 Oct
12 Oct
8:35 a.m.
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11:20 a.m.
computer. Does
WYSE ring a bell to anyone? But the biggest enigma is an
Wyse terminals are fairly well-known, and I think they sold a PC clone at
one point. 
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6:26 p.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
They sure did. I remember back in 88-89 preparing a bunch of Wyse 286
PCs for delivery to a customer. Eight systems. We went through 14
systems to deliver those eight as I recall -- numerous DOA machines
computer. Does WYSE ring a bell to anyone? But
the biggest enigma is an
Wyse terminals are fairly well-known, and I think they sold a PC clone at
one point. from the distributor. (While we normally carried Wyse
terminals, we
didn't normally deal in their PCs, but the customer insisted).
They
looked like clock radios on steroids.
--
Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/>
When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked me if I had any
firearms with me. I said "Well, what do you need?" -- Steven Wright
3:22 p.m.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:26:47 -0400
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
From: Ward Donald Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: auction grabs
Snip!
looked like clock radios on steroids.
--
Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/>
When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked me if I had any
firearms with me. I said "Well, what do you need?" -- Steven Wright
Non standard monitors to go with those! :( Boo hiss
That LCD display is backlighted - I assume yours is now dead long
since. I know that when I worked on it and it did have circuit
traces and holes to take 1MB x 1bit chips and 256K x 1bit. To
convert to 4MB, major solder work. Yuk.
Weird machine.
But I don't enjoy this one anyway so it went by without misgivings.
I'm amazed at high failure rate. That real bad.
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
9:03 p.m.
New subject: Wyse PCs (was Re: auction grabs)
jpero(a)pop.cgocable.net wrote:
No, those went with standard VGA displays.
looked like
clock radios on steroids.
Non standard monitors to go with those! :( Boo hiss
That LCD display is backlighted - I assume yours is now dead long
since. I know that when I worked on it and it did have circuit
traces and holes to take 1MB x 1bit chips and 256K x 1bit. To
convert to 4MB, major solder work. Yuk.
Weird machine.
But I don't enjoy this one anyway so it went by without misgivings.
I'm amazed at high failure rate. That real bad.
I prepped a batch for a customer, I never owned one, never will,
although I do have a few Wyse terminals. But six bad machines out of
fourteen turned me off forever on Wyse computers -- from the missing
components on a couple of motherboards, there is no way those boards
had ever seen power before we pulled the assembled CPUs out of the
boxes to install operating systems (and AboveBoards and tape drives).
I have to assume that there was no direct connection below the Board
of Directors level between the terminal and PC divisions.
--
Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/>
When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked me if I had any
firearms with me. I said "Well, what do you need?" -- Steven Wright
13 Oct
13 Oct
1:07 a.m.
New subject: Wyse PCs (was Re: auction grabs)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:03:06 -0400
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
From: Ward Donald Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Wyse PCs (was Re: auction grabs)
jpero(a)pop.cgocable.net wrote:
No, those went with standard VGA displays.
I sincerely meant it. At that time around 4 years ago, I happen to
have the oddball 16" mono wyse monitor and the that thing but between
2 no video card to drive that thing. That monitor can be driven up
to incrediable high resolution better than 1024x768.
Did call Wyse tech support, yuk! Took me a while to find out the
cost to get that card cost too much for that value I think 100US.
Not long afterwards, machine was gone to a user who needs one with
standard monitor + card and 3 years later, that cursed monitor thrown
out because I couldn't find the card for it.
Oh, that wyse 286 is pretty stock clone and phoenix bios setup.exe on
a disk for setting up CMOS contents does works.
Funny, I did saw exact type of wyse 286 around that time after I sold
that dumb 286 thingy with dreadful monitor that had that oddball
card when it was in repairs.
I know because those 286 circuit boards are not that great quality as
expected of for that expense compared to IBM 50Z box. Even 55SX is
good deal!
Oh, Those wyse terminals needs upgrade kits to keep them working
reliablibly. Reminds me of those compact mac analog board upgrade
kit. Both you can still can get them around 30 or so from CCS.
I clearly recall seeing at least 10 wyse terminals in repairs at any
given time. Horrific! Gee, they shouldn't have used wyse terminal
features and stuck with standardized DEC VT programming routines
because that is more common than wyse terminals usually. I mean
number of standard and clones for VT terminal series compared to
wyse.
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
looked
like clock radios on steroids.
Non standard monitors to go with those! :( Boo hiss 
11:33 a.m.
New subject: Wyse PCs (was Re: auction grabs)
On 13 Oct 98 at 10:07, jpero(a)pop.cgocable.net wrote:
I sincerely meant it. At that time around 4 years ago, I happen to
have the oddball 16" mono wyse monitor and the that thing but between
2 no video card to drive that thing. That monitor can be driven up
to incrediable high resolution better than 1024x768.
Did call Wyse tech support, yuk! Took me a while to find out the
cost to get that card cost too much for that value I think 100US.
Not long afterwards, machine was gone to a user who needs one with
standard monitor + card and 3 years later, that cursed monitor thrown
out because I couldn't find the card for it.
Oh, that wyse 286 is pretty stock clone and phoenix bios setup.exe on
a disk for setting up CMOS contents does works.
Funny, I did saw exact type of wyse 286 around that time after I sold
that dumb 286 thingy with dreadful monitor that had that oddball
card when it was in repairs.
I know because those 286 circuit boards are not that great quality as
expected of for that expense compared to IBM 50Z box. Even 55SX is
good deal!
Oh, Those wyse terminals needs upgrade kits to keep them working
reliablibly. Reminds me of those compact mac analog board upgrade
kit. Both you can still can get them around 30 or so from CCS.
I clearly recall seeing at least 10 wyse terminals in repairs at any
given time. Horrific! Gee, they shouldn't have used wyse terminal
features and stuck with standardized DEC VT programming routines
because that is more common than wyse terminals usually. I mean
number of standard and clones for VT terminal series compared to
wyse.
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
I just picked up a bunch of old cards. Most were MCA ethernet or TR but among
the few ISA cards was a 16-bit double card with a 9 pin external plug labelled
Wyse monitor. There's 2 badly mounted Wyse E-Proms. Printed on the bottom of
the top board was WY-700 Controller Daughterboard. Wyse Technology (c) 1986.
The bottom one has WY-700 PC HI RES MOTHER BOARD. Sounds like your beast.
If I should find one of these monitors would it work on a clone with just
this card ?
There was also a 16-bitter labelled Wangtek with a 50-pin connector, and in
the bunch of stuff a Syquest 44 drive with 50 pin connector. I take it that
this is likely a SCCI card for the Syquest. Did Syquest make their own
controllers, or did Wangtek supply a card dedicated to the 44, or was this a
generic SCSI card , in other words one that I could use with any SCSI
peripheral ? It has a 10 sw. config. block and an E-prom with a pasted-on label
which appears to say Colorado Memory System xxxxx (c)1985
Don't know if this fits the 10 year OT but in another find at a thrift was a
small box called a Surecom EtherPerfect 500 T. for $1.00. It has one BNC
and 8 RJ- ( ? 6wire telephone type) connectors with a switch for normal or
cascade. I know virtually zip about LAN but I imagine this is some sort of
ethernet controller ?
Any pointers ?
ciao lary
lwalker(a)interlog.com
Non standard monitors to go with those! :( Boo hiss
No, those went with standard VGA displays.
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