20 Jul
2015
20 Jul
'15
10:23 a.m.
Folks,
I didn't realise there'd been a clasiccmp server meltdown, wondered why I
wasn't getting mails :)
We still have a few AS4100s out there in the field and CPU fans are
becoming scarce, so being canny we sourced some *almost* identical
replacements to no avail.
Original spec for the fan is 12V 0.17A, our replacements are 12V 0.18A and
the console still reports them as failed. I've sanity checked by using a
processor board with a good fan and still nothing. Could the 0.01A cause
THAT much of an issue? The wiring is a good 3" longer too but I didn't
think that would cause problems either.
Any help appreciated.
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Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
20 Jul
20 Jul
11:17 a.m.
On 07/20/2015 09:23 AM, Adrian Graham wrote:
Folks,
I didn't realise there'd been a clasiccmp server meltdown, wondered why I
wasn't getting mails :)
We still have a few AS4100s out there in the field and CPU fans are
becoming scarce, so being canny we sourced some *almost* identical
replacements to no avail.
Original spec for the fan is 12V 0.17A, our replacements are 12V 0.18A and
the console still reports them as failed. I've sanity checked by using a
processor board with a good fan and still nothing. Could the 0.01A cause
THAT much of an issue? The wiring is a good 3" longer too but I didn't
think that would cause problems either.
Do the original fans have speed sensors? There were several
different versions of this. Some fans have an OK signal,
some give a pulse once per rev. Did the original fans have
3 wires?
Jon
11:31 a.m.
Hi,
Do the original fans have speed sensors? There were
several different
versions of this. Some fans have an OK signal, some give a pulse
once per
rev. Did the original fans have 3 wires?
Yes, I put them down as +12V, GND, Pulse.
Original fan: http://f0p.co.uk/AS4100original.JPG
Replacement: http://f0p.co.uk/AS4100replacement.JPG
I'm guessing the original was slightly more 'special' than the replacement
which is just a cooling fan...
Cheers
Adrian
On 20 July 2015 at 16:17, Jon Elson <elson at pico-systems.com> wrote:
On 07/20/2015 09:23 AM, Adrian Graham wrote:
--
adrian/witchy
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest home computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
Folks,
I didn't realise there'd been a clasiccmp server meltdown, wondered why I
wasn't getting mails :)
We still have a few AS4100s out there in the field and CPU fans are
becoming scarce, so being canny we sourced some *almost* identical
replacements to no avail.
Original spec for the fan is 12V 0.17A, our replacements are 12V 0.18A and
the console still reports them as failed. I've sanity checked by using a
processor board with a good fan and still nothing. Could the 0.01A cause
THAT much of an issue? The wiring is a good 3" longer too but I didn't
think that would cause problems either.
Do the original fans have speed sensors? There were several different
versions
of this. Some fans have an OK signal, some give a pulse once per
rev. Did the original fans have 3 wires?
Jon
11:37 a.m.
On 2015-07-20 17:31, Adrian Graham wrote:
Hi,
I would definitely suspect the pulsing rather than one 0.01A difference...
I'm sure there are several different constructs for the pulse signal...
Johnny
Do the original fans have speed sensors? There
were several different
versions of this. Some fans have an OK signal, some give a
pulse once per
rev. Did the original fans have 3 wires?
Yes, I put them down as +12V, GND, Pulse.
Original fan: http://f0p.co.uk/AS4100original.JPG
Replacement: http://f0p.co.uk/AS4100replacement.JPG
I'm guessing the original was slightly more 'special' than the replacement
which is just a cooling fan...
Cheers
Adrian
On 20 July 2015 at 16:17, Jon Elson <elson at pico-systems.com> wrote:
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On 07/20/2015 09:23 AM, Adrian Graham wrote:
Folks,
I didn't realise there'd been a clasiccmp server meltdown, wondered why I
wasn't getting mails :)
We still have a few AS4100s out there in the field and CPU fans are
becoming scarce, so being canny we sourced some *almost* identical
replacements to no avail.
Original spec for the fan is 12V 0.17A, our replacements are 12V 0.18A and
the console still reports them as failed. I've sanity checked by using a
processor board with a good fan and still nothing. Could the 0.01A cause
THAT much of an issue? The wiring is a good 3" longer too but I didn't
think that would cause problems either.
Do the original fans have speed sensors? There were several different
versions
of this. Some fans have an OK signal, some give a pulse once per
rev. Did the original fans have 3 wires?
Jon
12:06 p.m.
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Adrian Graham wrote:
We still have a few AS4100s out there in the field and
CPU fans are
becoming scarce, so being canny we sourced some *almost* identical
replacements to no avail.
In the majority of cases, it is the bearings that fail and they are
commercially obtainable. Why not rebuild them?
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Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
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