26 Nov
1998
26 Nov
'98
7:18 a.m.
Did anyone else see this? I thought it was much worse than 2.0, but can
someone comment on its accuracy, whatever? I thought he left out a lot
of stuff, about bulletin board systems, and such.
26 Nov
26 Nov
9:16 a.m.
On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Max Eskin wrote:
Did anyone else see this? I thought it was much worse
than 2.0, but can
someone comment on its accuracy, whatever? I thought he left out a lot
of stuff, about bulletin board systems, and such.
The thing I was most amazed by was the Microsoft commercial, where they
actually acknowledged and saluted the contributions to computing of
non-Microsoft people.
They showed a series of pictures of people with captions explaining who
they are and what they did, including Grace Hopper (inventor of COBOL),
Dan Bricklin (inventor of the spreadsheet program).. I wish I had more
examples but right about then was when I started to doze off so my short
term memory didn't retain that. Suffice it to say I was pretty amazed it
turned out to be a Microsoft commercial.
Otherwise, the program (what I caught of it) was pretty good I thought.
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10:41 a.m.
I guess I missed that commercial, but I did see the one where they
showed a screen with a guy with his foot victoriously atop a bunch of
software boxes, and the words, " A computer on every desk and on every
home running Microsoft software". Also, they showed Steve Ballmer
explaining that with all the attention Win95 got, their browser at the
time didn't receive all that much attention. He ignored the fact that
they didn't even make the browser, as well as the fact that it opened
nothing but an empty window when Win95 was released.
The thing I was most amazed by was the Microsoft
commercial, where they
actually acknowledged and saluted the contributions to computing of
non-Microsoft people.
They showed a series of pictures of people with captions explaining who
they are and what they did, including Grace Hopper (inventor of COBOL),
Dan Bricklin (inventor of the spreadsheet program).. I wish I had more
examples but right about then was when I started to doze off so my short
term memory didn't retain that. Suffice it to say I was pretty amazed it
turned out to be a Microsoft commercial.
Otherwise, the program (what I caught of it) was pretty good I thought.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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10:41 a.m.
At 18:18 11/26/98 +0000, Max Eskin wrote:
Did anyone else see this? I thought it was much worse
than 2.0, but can
someone comment on its accuracy, whatever? I thought he left out a lot
of stuff, about bulletin board systems, and such.
My wife and I saw most of it (missed the first 45 min.). We feel it was
aimed more toward folks *not* like us here on the list. The normal,
non-nerdy types of folk is what I mean whether they use the Internet or
not. My wife finally got to see on screen some of the folks that I have
been talking about to her when she asks what I'm reading/studying (Bob
Metcalf, et al). That impressed her.
Our ex-neighbor just got a Compaq Presario from their kids for their 50th
wedding anniversary. He's 72, a retired pastor, totally
non-computer-oriented and just beginning to use and understand IRC and
email. I tutored him a bit on how to use M$ IE yesterday (first time *ever*
I touched IE. Now I'm amongst the damned :) ) and he was really impressed
at how Altavista could hunt up URLs related to religious study keywords we
searched on. This is one of the audiences I feel benefited from the
seemingly lacking program. After all, to cover all of the stuff that we on
the list are aware of the program would end up being a mini-series, cost
much more and bore non-technical people (still most of the audience today)
to tears. There would be much less viewership. Even PBS producers have to
know their audience limits.
For what it is worth, we did like the program anyway as it helped clear up
a few bits of history in my mind (SUN Microsystems history for example) and
I agree there was a few 'holes'.
One thing Max, BBS systems were never really an Internet thing. They were
stand-alone computers that could be dialed-up and info uploaded or
retrieved much like an ftp site and also were locations for the first chat
sites and email -but only amongst users of that BBS who would dial-in to a
number local to that particular BBS -usually long distance to the rest of
the country/world. Online systems like AOL, Compuserve, Delphi, Netcom, et
al had more capability and features and local user dial-ups but still were
not connected to the Internet until around 1992-94.
Just my two cents . . .
Regards, Chris
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27 Nov
27 Nov
2:41 a.m.
At 04:41 PM 11/26/1998 -0500, you wrote:
At 18:18 11/26/98 +0000, Max Eskin wrote:
As a small time ex video producer I would like to put my two cents worth
in here.
The first rule of video or film making is to know who your audience is, and
you write your material with that in mind. I think PBS does an excellent
job of presenting a wide variety of material in an interesting form, and
that the American taxpayers get their moneys worth. I wish we had something
similar in Canada.
Regards
Charlie Fox
Charles E. Fox
Chas E. Fox Video Productions
email foxvideo(a)wincom.net Homepage http://www.wincom.net/foxvideo
Did anyone else see this? I thought it was much
worse than 2.0, but can
someone comment on its accuracy, whatever? I thought he left out a lot
of stuff, about bulletin board systems, and such.
My wife and I saw most of it (missed the first 45 min.). We feel it was
aimed more toward folks *not* like us here on the list. The normal,
non-nerdy types of folk is what I mean whether they use the Internet or
not. My wife finally got to see on screen some of the folks that I have
been talking about to her when she asks what I'm reading/studying (Bob
Metcalf, et al). That impressed her.
8:44 a.m.
As it was, it bored me to tears with it's dicussion of Venture Capital. They
spent half an hour discussing Cisco's experience. But, I see your point.
bore non-technical people (still most of the audience
today)
to tears. There would be much less viewership. Even PBS producers have to
know their audience limits.
I learned quite a bit from it.
For what it is worth, we did like the program anyway as
it helped clear up
a few bits of history in my mind (SUN Microsystems history for example) and
I agree there was a few 'holes'.
Yes, but I think it is a very important part of nerdhood in the late '70s,
'80s, and early '90s.
One thing Max, BBS systems were never really an
Internet thing. They were
stand-alone computers that could be dialed-up and info uploaded or
retrieved much like an ftp site and also were locations for the first chat
sites and email -but only amongst users of that BBS who would dial-in to a
number local to that particular BBS -usually long distance to the rest of
the country/world. Online systems like AOL, Compuserve, Delphi, Netcom, et
al had more capability and features and local user dial-ups but still were
not connected to the Internet until around 1992-94.
Just my two cents . . .
Regards, Chris
9:07 a.m.
On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Max Eskin wrote:
As it was, it bored me to tears with it's
dicussion of Venture Capital. They
spent half an hour discussing Cisco's experience. But, I see your point.
Max, venture capital is a huge part of the Silicon Valley and the computer
business as a whole. The San Jose Mercury always runs articles on what
venture firms are doing what in the Valley, for example. It's also a hot
topic in business trade journals.
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1:39 a.m.
On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:18:29 +0000
Max Eskin <kurtkilgor(a)geocities.com> wrote:
Did anyone else see this? I thought it was much worse
than 2.0, but can
someone comment on its accuracy, whatever? I thought he left out a lot
of stuff, about bulletin board systems, and such.
I'm watching it right now, because I couldn't find it on canadian Public
TV.
http://www.linuxonline.org/nerds2.html
I am watching it in Real media format.
If you missed it, you can grab it too.
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