14 Jul
2005
14 Jul
'05
9:44 a.m.
Actually, this is a somewhat uncommon German Apple ][
clone.
I'm not sure how common/rare it is in Germany, but Hans would
know. Certainly not $8K,or even $750. Maybe a couple hundred.
I remember the ITT being more common than the real Apple at the
time. Had three of them at school.
Lee.
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14 Jul
14 Jul
7:37 p.m.
Actually, this is a somewhat uncommon German Apple ][
clone.
What is most bizarre is his insistence (based on some web page
he claims he read) that it is a real Apple ][.
I mean, we all know people whose reality is distorted, but this
guy seems to be taking it further than most in his insistence that
he is right on this particular point.
Tim.
8:45 p.m.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Tim Shoppa wrote:
What are you gonna do...this is eBay we're talking about.
Anyway, I should clarify my statement above, re: an "uncommon" machine.
According to Hans it's actually quite common in Germany, and was the first
licensed Apple ][ clone in Germany. It actually was a modded Revision 7
motherboard, not yet the Europlus motherboard.
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Actually, this
is a somewhat uncommon German Apple ][ clone.
What is most bizarre is his insistence (based on some web page
he claims he read) that it is a real Apple ][.
I mean, we all know people whose reality is distorted, but this
guy seems to be taking it further than most in his insistence that
he is right on this particular point. 
11:49 p.m.
Tim,
I too found it quite bizarre, but then I think I figured it out......
He's using the term "Apple //" like a person might use the designation
"PC". A Dell, a Compaq, an HP, a whatever, are all PC's. In other
words, he's using "Apple //" as a type or kind, not a brand. Like what
people, at least in the US, do with Kleenex, or Scotch Tape, or Crescent
Wrenchs
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Tim Shoppa wrote:
What is most bizarre is his insistence (based on some
web page
he claims he read) that it is a real Apple ][.
I mean, we all know people whose reality is distorted, but this
guy seems to be taking it further than most in his insistence that
he is right on this particular point.
Tim.
15 Jul
15 Jul
11:16 p.m.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:49:40 -0400
C Fernandez <fernande at internet1.net> wrote:
Tim,
I too found it quite bizarre, but then I think I figured it out......
He's using the term "Apple //" like a person might use the designation
"PC". A Dell, a Compaq, an HP, a whatever, are all PC's. In other
words, he's using "Apple //" as a type or kind, not a brand. Like
what people, at least in the US, do with Kleenex, or Scotch Tape, or
Crescent Wrenchs
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
I would think that that sort of reference would only infuriate a few of
the uglier lawyers at Apple at this point in history. Apple worked HARD
to run a lot of Apple II cloners out of business back in the day. Now
it should be time for all the old Apple II clone kit to be very
collectable. A friend of mine used to have a 'board set' that was an
'Orange Peel' Computer, made by one of the companies Apple's lawyers
drove out of existence.
Now, it's completely understandable that Apple should want to completely
'own' the Apple brand. It's a historically significant matter, and this
seller is legitimate in his insistence, on some levels.
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