10 Mar
2001
10 Mar
'01
9:30 a.m.
I just received a load of Apple MACS. Among them about a half dozed
LC550's from a school. They work great except they are password
protected except the student accounts. Is there a way to bypass the
password protection on these or will they need an operating system
reload? What is the latest that these will run. They have 7.5.3 loaded
now.
Brian.
10 Mar
10 Mar
9:50 a.m.
I just received a load of Apple MACS. Among them about
a half dozed
LC550's from a school. They work great except they are password
protected except the student accounts. Is there a way to bypass the
password protection on these or will they need an operating system
reload? What is the latest that these will run. They have 7.5.3 loaded
now.
If it's a password protection on System 7.5.3 then it is most
likely some kind of extension handling it. Have you tried booting
with the extensions disabled (holding down the shift key as it
boots)? That or try to boot off of another System CD.
Jeff
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11 a.m.
Jeff,
Thanks for the quick reply. I do not have a system CD so that is out.
Although I have NO experience with Apples, my daughter has fallen in love
with this guy. I would like to get it back to a stock config with Netscape
so she can do her web thing. I woukd really like to put it on my UNIX
network behind my firewall. Is TCP/IP and ethernet a tall order for one
of these?
BTW you were right on about the extensions. I got in fine now.
Thanks for your help,
Brian.
If it's a password protection on System 7.5.3 then it is most
likely some kind of extension handling it. Have you tried booting
with the extensions disabled (holding down the shift key as it
boots)? That or try to boot off of another System CD.
Jeff
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11:37 a.m.
Thanks for the quick reply. I do not have a system
CD so that is out.
Although I have NO experience with Apples, my daughter has fallen in love
with this guy. I would like to get it back to a stock config with Netscape
so she can do her web thing. I woukd really like to put it on my UNIX
network behind my firewall. Is TCP/IP and ethernet a tall order for one
of these?
It's a 33mhz 68030 so it is possible to use it for Netscape
and such but she'll have to be patient with it. If you can find one,
Earthlink had a CD with everything you need for an older Mac. You
could just pick and choose the various items off of it. If you can't
find it, let me know. My suggestion would be to use an older version
of Netscape and something like Eudora Light 3.1 vice the current
version. Both are a bit smaller and better geared towards the early
system. Other suggestions would be to make sure it has a LC-PDS
ethernet card, maxed RAM (36MB) and possibly even maxed VRAM (768k).
There's only a single VRAM expansion SIMM socket, so it will be easy
to see if it's maxed out. That'll give you 640 x 480 at 16bit.
Jeff
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11:54 a.m.
Thanks for
the quick reply. I do not have a system CD so that is out.
Although I have NO experience with Apples, my daughter has fallen in love
with this guy. I would like to get it back to a stock config with Netscape
so she can do her web thing. I woukd really like to put it on my UNIX
network behind my firewall. Is TCP/IP and ethernet a tall order for one
of these?
It's a 33mhz 68030 so it is possible to use it for Netscape
and such but she'll have to be patient with it. If you can find one,
Earthlink had a CD with everything you need for an older Mac. You
could just pick and choose the various items off of it. If you can't
find it, let me know. My suggestion would be to use an older version
of Netscape and something like Eudora Light 3.1 vice the current
version. Both are a bit smaller and better geared towards the early
system. Other suggestions would be to make sure it has a LC-PDS
ethernet card, maxed RAM (36MB) and possibly even maxed VRAM (768k).
There's only a single VRAM expansion SIMM socket, so it will be easy
to see if it's maxed out. That'll give you 640 x 480 at 16bit.
12:25 p.m.
Ouch, might as well pick up a Mac II Ci, and put a good
video card
in it. Does that model take the same expansion cards as a II Ci?
Can you add a video card?
It's an all-in-one Mac with a single LC-PDS slot. The monitor is a
14" I believe. If a LC-PDS graphics card were used, he'd have to
give up the ethernet. To speed it up, it should be possible to put a
LC-575 mainboard with a 33mhz 68040 into it though. If I remember
correctly the whole LC-500 series uses the same mainboard style,
which is the same as the Color Classic and Color Classic II. All in
all, I'd say it's a nice little system for a beginner or just light
use. I've tried Netscape on my stock Color Classic and it worked,
but it wasn't very fast. I'm in the middle of putting a LC-575
mainboard into it.
Jeff
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11 Mar
11 Mar
12:02 a.m.
After further inspection in the pile I found a couple of LC575's, some
Centris box's, and a couple of power PC's 6100/60. Looks like the 575's
have ethernet as well. How well do these machines run NetBSD?
Brian.
Jeff Hellige wrote:
Ouch, might as
well pick up a Mac II Ci, and put a good video card
in it. Does that model take the same expansion cards as a II Ci?
Can you add a video card?
It's an all-in-one Mac with a single LC-PDS slot. The monitor is a
14" I believe. If a LC-PDS graphics card were used, he'd have to
give up the ethernet. To speed it up, it should be possible to put a
LC-575 mainboard with a 33mhz 68040 into it though. If I remember
correctly the whole LC-500 series uses the same mainboard style,
which is the same as the Color Classic and Color Classic II. All in
all, I'd say it's a nice little system for a beginner or just light
use. I've tried Netscape on my stock Color Classic and it worked,
but it wasn't very fast. I'm in the middle of putting a LC-575
mainboard into it.
Jeff
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1:05 a.m.
After further inspection in the pile I found a couple
of LC575's, some
Centris box's, and a couple of power PC's 6100/60. Looks like the 575's
have ethernet as well. How well do these machines run NetBSD?
If the 575's have ethernet, then you happened upon some that
already have the LC-PDS ethernet cards already installed. The best
ones were produced by Asante. On the other hand, other than the need
to find the dongles to connect the monitor and ethernet to it, the
6100 is quite a capable machine. I have one here with a G3 upgrade
in it.
Jeff
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6:14 a.m.
Ainsi parla Brian Roth (broth(a)heathers.stdio.com):
After further inspection in the pile I found a couple
of LC575's, some
Centris box's, and a couple of power PC's 6100/60. Looks like the 575's
have ethernet as well. How well do these machines run NetBSD?
"Of course it runs NetBSD!" Oh wait, that wasn't the question... :)
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/
Under OpenBSD, it seems that the graphics card on the LC 575 can't be used
so you have to use a serial console. What's the use? Firewall, NAT.
A friend once pointed out how the LC case is nearly ideal for a foot rest.
:)
"Bootstrapping" a fresh Mac OS install can be very annoying. You can't
just
FTP over a package and install it, because you need Stuffit (or equiv) and
you can't install Stuffit because that requires Stuffit to turn the .sea
(self-extracting archive) into something that's actually executable. Best
advice is to either already have a running mac :) or buy a magazine that
comes with a CD-ROM, they always have Stuffit on them.
Setting up TCP/IP is relatively easy. The big gotcha is to make sure you
have "Allways load driver" checked. Otherwise, you won't be able to ping
into the computer unless some internet app is running. Also, Mac OS doesn't
have ping, nor traceroute nor other network debuging tools. OTTools is what
you want. But, how do you get it onto the Mac if you don't have a working
network? I resorted to CD-R.
You wouldn't happen to have a PPC-based mac that's looking for a home, would
you?
7:24 a.m.
Ohillip,
Already have a LRP equipped pentium for a MASQ router/firewall. Thanks for
the link anyway as I may just install it to add another animal to my *NIX
network. Besides, lotsa cloudy weekends still left here in WNY. They say summer
is going to fall on a Tuesday this year ;>
I only have one 6100. I have some Quadra 660's and Centris 610's in the
pile. I can get ahold of more 6100's from the guy next week if he hasn't
already sold them. Any DEC stuff to trade for one?
Brian.
Philip Gwyn wrote:
Ainsi parla Brian Roth (broth(a)heathers.stdio.com):
After further inspection in the pile I found a
couple of LC575's, some
Centris box's, and a couple of power PC's 6100/60. Looks like the 575's
have ethernet as well. How well do these machines run NetBSD?
"Of course it runs NetBSD!" Oh wait, that wasn't the question... :)
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/
Under OpenBSD, it seems that the graphics card on the LC 575 can't be used
so you have to use a serial console. What's the use? Firewall, NAT.
A friend once pointed out how the LC case is nearly ideal for a foot rest.
:)
"Bootstrapping" a fresh Mac OS install can be very annoying. You can't
just
FTP over a package and install it, because you need Stuffit (or equiv) and
you can't install Stuffit because that requires Stuffit to turn the .sea
(self-extracting archive) into something that's actually executable. Best
advice is to either already have a running mac :) or buy a magazine that
comes with a CD-ROM, they always have Stuffit on them.
Setting up TCP/IP is relatively easy. The big gotcha is to make sure you
have "Allways load driver" checked. Otherwise, you won't be able to ping
into the computer unless some internet app is running. Also, Mac OS doesn't
have ping, nor traceroute nor other network debuging tools. OTTools is what
you want. But, how do you get it onto the Mac if you don't have a working
network? I resorted to CD-R.
You wouldn't happen to have a PPC-based mac that's looking for a home, would
you?
4:27 p.m.
New subject: AAUI Transceivers (was Re: Apple LC550)
--- Brian Roth <broth(a)heathers.stdio.com> wrote:
Ohillip,
I only have one 6100. I have some Quadra 660's and Centris 610's in the
pile. I can get ahold of more 6100's from the guy next week if he hasn't
already sold them. Any DEC stuff to trade for one?
Just got a WQuadra 660AV myself this weekend. I'm in the market for a couple
of AAUI transceivers - one for this box and one for my PowerMac 6100 that also
happens to need one of those high-density video plug adapters for the AV
monitor (I'm looking to find one *without* resorting to eOverPay)
So... anyone here have a couple of AAUI<->10BaseT transceivers they'll let
go cheap? I found some places that have them for about $10, shipped,
especially if you want 10Base2 instead.
-ethan
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6:12 p.m.
New subject: AAUI Transceivers (was Re: Apple LC550)
--- Brian Roth <broth(a)heathers.stdio.com> wrote:
If you want thin coax, 10b2 AAUI, those are cheap, not as cheap as 10b2
nubus cards, but ala $5 each plus shipping. I have some very good deals on
10b5 vampire taps too.
Not very common at all, but I have them, AAUI to both 10bt and 10b2 (no I
don't think you can use both at once).
Ohillip,
I only have one 6100. I have some Quadra 660's and Centris 610's in the
pile. I can get ahold of more 6100's from the guy next week if he hasn't
already sold them. Any DEC stuff to trade for one?
Just got a WQuadra 660AV myself this weekend. I'm in the market for a couple
of AAUI transceivers - one for this box and one for my PowerMac 6100 that also
happens to need one of those high-density video plug adapters for the AV
monitor (I'm looking to find one *without* resorting to eOverPay)
So... anyone here have a couple of AAUI<->10BaseT transceivers they'll let
go cheap? I found some places that have them for about $10, shipped,
especially if you want 10Base2 instead. 
10:36 p.m.
New subject: AAUI Transceivers (was Re: Apple LC550)
There's a couple AAUI transceivers for the PowerMac on ebay right now. A lot
of people actually give the 10base2 away or trade for the cost of shipping.
=> -----Original Message-----
=> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
=> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Ethan Dicks
=> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 12:28 AM
=> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
=> Subject: AAUI Transceivers (was Re: Apple LC550)
=>
=>
=>
=> --- Brian Roth <broth(a)heathers.stdio.com> wrote:
=> > Ohillip,
=> >
=> > I only have one 6100. I have some Quadra 660's and Centris
=> 610's in the
=> > pile. I can get ahold of more 6100's from the guy next week if
=> he hasn't
=> > already sold them. Any DEC stuff to trade for one?
=>
=> Just got a WQuadra 660AV myself this weekend. I'm in the market
=> for a couple
=> of AAUI transceivers - one for this box and one for my PowerMac
=> 6100 that also
=> happens to need one of those high-density video plug adapters for the AV
=> monitor (I'm looking to find one *without* resorting to eOverPay)
=>
=> So... anyone here have a couple of AAUI<->10BaseT transceivers
=> they'll let
=> go cheap? I found some places that have them for about $10, shipped,
=> especially if you want 10Base2 instead.
=>
=> -ethan
=>
=>
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12 Mar
12 Mar
5:03 a.m.
New subject: AAUI Transceivers (was Re: Apple LC550)
--- Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com> wrote:
There's a couple AAUI transceivers for the
PowerMac on ebay right now.
I don't mean to be rude, but please re-read the following...
=> (I'm looking to find one *without* resorting
to eOverPay)
I saw plenty on eBay. I only looked there to get an idea of what the
used market looked like on them. As I said, I found genuine vendors
with $10 units (two for $18 plus $4 shipping total) which beats the
"buy it now" for $15 plus $5 shipping that's on eBay or the long, drawn
out wait for auctions to end, etc.
I am not an eBay shopper. I have participated in a couple of auctions. The
prices always grew to higher than I cared to pay and I have never won one.
As a result, I don't even bother anymore.
I figured I'd ask here because I could find someone with a box of them
gathering dust and strike a deal. Worst case, I drop $22 on a pair and
be done with it, no auction necessary.
-ethan
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10:21 a.m.
HMMMMMM......
Think I,ll pass on that one. I'll check for more Apple stuff this Fri and let
you know what I find.
Brian.
liste(a)artware.qc.ca wrote:
On 11-Mar-2001 Brian Roth wrote:
I only have one 6100. I have some Quadra
660's and Centris 610's in
the pile. I can get ahold of more 6100's from the guy next week if he
hasn't already sold them. Any DEC stuff to trade for one?
A dead sexy VT220 ? :)
-Philip 
11 Mar
11 Mar
6:47 p.m.
Brian Roth skrev:
After further inspection in the pile I found a couple
of LC575's, some
Centris box's, and a couple of power PC's 6100/60. Looks like the 575's
have ethernet as well. How well do these machines run NetBSD?
The x100 PPC series won't run NetBSD due to the Nubus architecture as well as
the lack of "open firmware".
As for the 68k Macs, they could probably run NetBSD a lot better if there were
sufficient hardware documentation. There's nothing wrong with the software,
but the presentation could be better. There's still only monochrome video and
no sound.
If the Centrises are 610s, they probably need to have the LC040 CPU replaced
with a full '040 with integrated FPU. The 650 already has got a rather speedy
'040.
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12 Mar
12 Mar
8:23 a.m.
On 12 Mar 2001, Iggy Drougge wrote:
The x100 PPC series won't run NetBSD due to the
Nubus architecture as well as
the lack of "open firmware".
You can run Linux on most of them, although the port isn't stable yet.
http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/
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7 p.m.
Alex Holden skrev:
On 12 Mar 2001, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> The x100 PPC series won't run NetBSD due to the Nubus architecture as well
> as the lack of "open firmware".
You can run Linux on most of them, although the port
isn't stable yet.
http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/
Would that be monolith Linux or the Mach-based MkLinux?
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25 Mar
25 Mar
12:02 a.m.
On 13 Mar 2001, Iggy Drougge wrote:
Alex Holden skrev:
Monolithic- it's a port of the conventional Linux/PPC 2.4 kernel to Nubus
hardware.
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You can run Linux on most of them, although the
port isn't stable yet.
http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/
Would that be monolith Linux or the Mach-based
MkLinux?
10 Mar
10 Mar
12:37 p.m.
Ouch, might as well pick up a Mac II Ci, and put a good
video card
in it. Does that model take the same expansion cards as a II Ci?
Can you add a video card?
LC 550 is an All in One mac, it ancestor of the imac with a tube in the
chassis. It has ONE LC PDS slot, and one 72 pin simm and thats it. My guess
is that some LC PDS video card might work, but the IIci is a completely
different animal.
The IIci is a 16 mhz 68030 (with fpu so you can run NetBSD) with builtin in
video and 3 standard nubus slots. Half the speed, no builtin monitor, but
generally a more flexible machine.
2:09 p.m.
The IIci is a 16 mhz 68030 (with fpu so you can run
NetBSD) with builtin in
video and 3 standard nubus slots. Half the speed, no builtin monitor, but
generally a more flexible machine.
25MHz (see Low-End Mac). And yes, the IIci is a wonderful Classic Mac. I have
two, and two IIsis looking for a purpose (the cis have supplanted them).
I run NetBSD on a IIci with a 50MHz Daystar accelerator.
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9:06 p.m.
Mike Ford skrev:
The IIci is a 16 mhz 68030 (with fpu so you can run
NetBSD) with builtin in
video and 3 standard nubus slots. Half the speed, no builtin monitor, but
generally a more flexible machine.
Actually, the IIci runs at 25 MHz, it's its predecessor, the IIcx, which runs
at 16 MHz and lacks onboard video.
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12:28 p.m.
so she can do her web thing. I woukd really like to
put it on my UNIX
network behind my firewall. Is TCP/IP and ethernet a tall order for one
of these?
Every mac WANTS to be on a network. ;)
Uses a LC PDS slot ethernet card, which I have for $14 shipped.
33 mhz 030 unfortuantely no fpu came stock and you can play heck finding
one (68882). Memory is I think 4 mb on the board and a single 72 pin simm
socket.
11 Mar
11 Mar
6:20 a.m.
Ainsi parla Mike Ford (mikeford(a)socal.rr.com):
33 mhz 030 unfortuantely no fpu came stock and you can
play heck finding
one (68882). Memory is I think 4 mb on the board and a single 72 pin simm
socket.
Don't the LCs have LC versions of the CPUs (68LC030 in this case) and
react
favourably to upgrading to a "real" CPU?
-Philip
7:06 a.m.
33 mhz 030
unfortuantely no fpu came stock and you can play heck finding
one (68882). Memory is I think 4 mb on the board and a single 72 pin simm
socket.
Don't the LCs have LC versions of the CPUs (68LC030 in this case) and
react
favourably to upgrading to a "real" CPU?
7:23 p.m.
Philip Gwyn skrev:
Is there such a thing as an LC030? I'm familiar with the EC030, but since LC
should signify lack of FPU, and there is no FPU inegrated into any '030, what
would it signify?
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Ainsi parla Mike Ford (mikeford(a)socal.rr.com):
33 mhz 030
unfortuantely no fpu came stock and you can play heck finding
one (68882). Memory is I think 4 mb on the board and a single 72 pin simm
socket.
Don't the LCs have LC versions of the CPUs (68LC030 in this case) and
react
favourably to upgrading to a "real" CPU?
10 Mar
10 Mar
1:52 p.m.
Brian Roth skrev:
Thanks for the quick reply. I do not have a system
CD so that is out.
Although I have NO experience with Apples, my daughter has fallen in love
with this guy. I would like to get it back to a stock config with Netscape
so she can do her web thing. I woukd really like to put it on my UNIX
network behind my firewall. Is TCP/IP and ethernet a tall order for one
of these?
They will handle ethernet and TCP/IP (built into system 7.5) quite fine,
though the hardware bit really isn't something you stumble upon every day.
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11:54 a.m.
I just received a load of Apple MACS. Among them about
a half dozed
LC550's from a school. They work great except they are password
protected except the student accounts. Is there a way to bypass the
password protection on these or will they need an operating system
reload? What is the latest that these will run. They have 7.5.3 loaded
now.
Try booting from a floppy.
030 can run 7.6.1
040 should run 8.1
The caveat is that systems without much memory, ie most likely yours may be
much better off a few revs back.
9:04 a.m.
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:54:50 -0800
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Apple LC550
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
I just received
a load of Apple MACS. Among them about a half dozed
LC550's from a school. They work great except they are password
protected except the student accounts. Is there a way to bypass the
password protection on these or will they need an operating system
reload? What is the latest that these will run. They have 7.5.3 loaded
now.
Try booting from a floppy.
030 can run 7.6.1
040 should run 8.1 The caveat is that systems without much memory, ie
most likely yours may be
much better off a few revs back.
Heed that. Or find IIcx, it has '030 and fpu by default
running 25MHz, slot for cache card, only plm is ram greater than
30pin 16MB per stick, pricy. Plus side for expansion, IIcx has 3
Nubus slots. Avoid IIvi and IIvx they're low budget machines with
performance to match. LC 630 CD or something better. Can buy video
adapter cables to hook up peecee monitor to mac. I made one myself
successfully. I used it on LC III and 610. Should work on any mac
LC series, any centris, quadra, performas.
Working on these Macs is far easier than peecees and more fun.
Cheers,
Wizard
11 Mar
11 Mar
6:32 a.m.
Ainsi parla jpero(a)sympatico.ca (jpero(a)sympatico.ca):
I made one myself
successfully.
Doesn't the adapter need to tell the Mac what resolutions it can
handle?
I used it on LC III and 610. Should work on any mac
LC series, any centris, quadra, performas.
I got one free with my new monitor. It's stunning how less cramped the mac
feels when i use my 17" rather then the 14" that came with it :)
Working on these Macs is far easier than peecees and
more fun.
I don't really know about fun. I was given a Centris 630AV last summer that
I use to test the web sites I develope on. And, as a long-time Mac hater, I
must say that Mac OS really is much friendlier and simpler then Windows. As
long as I have a real computer (read Linux) nearby to do work on, playing
with the Mac was nowhere near as painful as I thought it would be. My main
gripe is that applications or version of apps for 68k machines are becoming
few and far between.
BTW, I haven't found out how to use the AV inputs on the Centris yet. Where
would I find a small app that would read the video/audio in and display it
on the screen, at least. This would make (albeit silly, noisy, large)
monitor for my C64, TI-99 and various Ataris and Odesseys.
-Philip
8:57 a.m.
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:32:23 -0500
From: Philip Gwyn <liste(a)artware.qc.ca>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Apple LC550
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Hi Philip,
Ainsi parla jpero(a)sympatico.ca (jpero(a)sympatico.ca):
Correct! That adapter cable sets the resolutions. Mine is
configured for 640x480 pc standard but in the OS setting it can be
800 x 600. If I want 1024x768, I have to use more VRAM installed and
rewire the adapter. Very minor task and already documented. Can
send you links for that. That seller offered to sell me a mac 14"
monitor for cost of decent sandwich but I knew it's very low
resolution and I don't have space to put that thing somewhere.
Apple's many monitors are fixed frequency monitor only and one
resolution. Yuk.
I made one myself
successfully.
Doesn't the adapter need to tell the Mac what resolutions it
can handle? Working on
these Macs is far easier than peecees and more fun.
I don't really know about fun. I was given a Centris 630AV last summer that
I use to test the web sites I develope on. And, as a long-time Mac hater, I
must say that Mac OS really is much friendlier and simpler then Windows. As
long as I have a real computer (read Linux) nearby to do work on, playing
with the Mac was nowhere near as painful as I thought it would be. My main
gripe is that applications or version of apps for 68k machines are becoming
few and far between. BTW, I haven't found out how to use the AV inputs
on the Centris yet. Where
would I find a small app that would read the video/audio in and display it
on the screen, at least. This would make (albeit silly, noisy, large)
monitor for my C64, TI-99 and various Ataris and Odesseys.
There's a way, you will find a way. And ask here.
-Philip
Cheers,
Wizard
8:08 p.m.
Philip Gwyn <liste(a)artware.qc.ca> said:
As
long as I have a real computer (read Linux) nearby to do work on, playing
with the Mac was nowhere near as painful as I thought it would be.
My 630 is networked to the Linux box and I can telnet in from it and even
run MI/X (a Mac X-Window server).
BTW, I haven't found out how to use the AV inputs
on the Centris yet. Where
would I find a small app that would read the video/audio in and display it
on the screen, at least. This would make (albeit silly, noisy, large)
monitor for my C64, TI-99 and various Ataris and Odesseys.
I think what you need is "Apple Video Player". AFAIK it came on the system
CD - it did with my Performa 630 - though you should be able to find it
on Apples site. I'm using it now with an old video camera to watch the
wild birds on the bird feeder in the garden!
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr stanb(a)dial.pipex.com
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