20 Mar
2002
20 Mar
'02
10:06 a.m.
What ought to happen to these asswipes should be what
happened to the company I used to work for:
The 'aggressor' company purchased a competitor, but
by so doing, bit off *way* more than it could chew,
incurring hevy debtload and ensuing layoffs.
The whole bloody mess will be in bankruptcy court
before the year is out.
Serves 'em both right . . . .
Jeff
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:00:05 -0700 "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com>
writes:
It's more a question of whether Compaq will do to
HP what DEC did to
Compaq.
In either case, I'm glad I don' t hold any HP stock.
Dick
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20 Mar
20 Mar
11:56 a.m.
That appears to be what is happening at HP. They did something even stupider
when they bought up Apollo in the mid-'80's and learned quite quickly that CAE
was not a realm they should be attempting to capture. It is a really
attractive field because of the numbers, but once one learns about the profit
margin, one backs off, as they did within a year. That left a number of
companies high and dry, since HP, and they, realized that HP couldn't support
the products they'd sold, no matter how much money they threw at it.
The PC business is one where DEC didn't fit, and where HP doesn't fit either.
HP's already learned they can't compete with SUN, so they're probably headed
for a big fall here. Of course that "queen-bee" that ramrodded this
acquisition by the board and perhaps by the stockholders as well, has her
sights set on unseating IBM, and while IBM's not the great power it once was,
mainly because a huge company can't compete over the long term in this market,
IBM's gotten some valuable experience over the couple of decades they've been
in the business, that HP hasn't got yet.
I don't think Compaq has much to contribute to the mix, having endeavored,
successfully, to outlive their market. They'll probably take HP down with
them.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Destruction of DEC
What ought to happen to these asswipes should be what
happened to the company I used to work for:
The 'aggressor' company purchased a competitor, but
by so doing, bit off *way* more than it could chew,
incurring hevy debtload and ensuing layoffs.
The whole bloody mess will be in bankruptcy court
before the year is out.
Serves 'em both right . . . .
Jeff
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:00:05 -0700 "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com>
writes:
It's more a question of whether Compaq will
do to HP what DEC did to
Compaq.
In either case, I'm glad I don' t hold any HP stock.
Dick
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12:41 p.m.
Anyone have a stock certificate from COMPAQ they want give away or sell
cheap? I need one for my collection and a HP would be nice also. I will
frame them and put up with the others. Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Destruction of DEC
That appears to be what is happening at HP. They did
something even
stupider
when they bought up Apollo in the mid-'80's
and learned quite quickly
that CAE
was not a realm they should be attempting to capture.
It is a really
attractive field because of the numbers, but once one learns about the
profit
margin, one backs off, as they did within a year.
That left a number
of
companies high and dry, since HP, and they, realized
that HP couldn't
support
the products they'd sold, no matter how much money
they threw at it.
The PC business is one where DEC didn't fit, and where HP doesn't fit
either.
HP's already learned they can't compete with
SUN, so they're probably
headed
for a big fall here. Of course that
"queen-bee" that ramrodded this
acquisition by the board and perhaps by the stockholders as well, has
her
sights set on unseating IBM, and while IBM's not
the great power it
once was,
mainly because a huge company can't compete over
the long term in this
market,
IBM's gotten some valuable experience over the
couple of decades
they've been
in the business, that HP hasn't got yet.
I don't think Compaq has much to contribute to the mix, having
endeavored,
successfully, to outlive their market. They'll
probably take HP down
with
them.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Destruction of DEC
>
> What ought to happen to these asswipes should be what
> happened to the company I used to work for:
>
> The 'aggressor' company purchased a competitor, but
> by so doing, bit off *way* more than it could chew,
> incurring hevy debtload and ensuing layoffs.
>
> The whole bloody mess will be in bankruptcy court
> before the year is out.
>
> Serves 'em both right . . . .
>
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:00:05 -0700 "Richard Erlacher"
<edick(a)idcomm.com>
> writes:
> > It's more a question of whether Compaq will do to HP what DEC did
to
Compaq.
In either case, I'm glad I don' t hold any HP stock.
Dick
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1:26 p.m.
"John R. Keys Jr." wrote:
Anyone have a stock certificate from COMPAQ they want give away or sell
cheap? I need one for my collection and a HP would be nice also. I will
frame them and put up with the others. Thanks
No but I got a deed for 2000 acres of prime Mars Estates. :)
--
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11:10 p.m.
New subject: stock certificates was Re: Destruction of DEC
At 08:26 PM 3/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
"John R. Keys Jr." wrote:
My dad still has a deed to one square inch of Alaska. I'm sure you ALL
remember those! :-)
John, send me your snail mail address. I have something that I think
you'll like.
Joe
Anyone have a stock certificate from COMPAQ they want give away or sell
cheap? I need one for my collection and a HP would be nice also. I will
frame them and put up with the others. Thanks
No but I got a deed for 2000 acres of prime Mars Estates. :)
11:52 p.m.
New subject: stock certificates was Re: Destruction of DEC
Thanks it's John Keys, 15827 Thistledew Drive, Houston, TX 77082
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:10 AM
Subject: stock certificates was Re: Destruction of DEC
My dad still has a deed to one square inch of Alaska. I'm sure you ALL
At 08:26 PM 3/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
>"John R. Keys Jr." wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a stock certificate from COMPAQ they want give away or
sell
>> cheap? I need one for my collection and a HP
would be nice also. I
will
frame them and put up with the others. Thanks
No but I got a deed for 2000 acres of prime Mars Estates. :) remember those! :-)
John, send me your snail mail address. I have something that I
think
you'll like.
Joe
11:53 p.m.
New subject: stock certificates was Re: Destruction of DEC
Joe wrote:
My dad still has a deed to one square inch of
Alaska. I'm sure you ALL
remember those! :-)
Thats a good deal ... you only have about 50 square feet of land that is
not ice, bush or rock.:)
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www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
21 Mar
21 Mar
12:38 a.m.
New subject: stock certificates was Re: Destruction of DEC
Do you have the mineral rights to that one square inch?
: )
- Matt
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Joe wrote:
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Thats a good deal ... you only have about 50 square feet of land that is
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20 Mar
20 Mar
3:53 p.m.
on 3/20/02 8:41 PM, John R. Keys Jr. at jrkeys(a)concentric.net wrote:
Anyone have a stock certificate from COMPAQ they want
give away or sell
cheap? I need one for my collection and a HP would be nice also. I will
frame them and put up with the others. Thanks
Try www.oneshare.com. They have COMPAQ and HP.
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21 Mar
21 Mar
1:33 a.m.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 08:41:32PM -0600, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
Anyone have a stock certificate from COMPAQ they want
give away or sell
cheap? I need one for my collection and a HP would be nice also. I will
frame them and put up with the others. Thanks
www.oneshare.com
Bill
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