10 Sep
2007
10 Sep
'07
1:22 p.m.
Merely curious. Does anyone know of any IBM PS/2 machines - the proper
Microchannel ones - hosting websites today?
I know of a number of very old Macs doing so, including a Mac Plus
with a website on floppy, machines running System 6 and AU/X. I've
even visited a website hosted on a Commodore 64, I seem to recall.
But never a PS/2 one.
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11 Sep
11 Sep
1:53 a.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
Liam Proven wrote:
Merely curious. Does anyone know of any IBM PS/2
machines - the proper
Microchannel ones - hosting websites today?
I know of a number of very old Macs doing so, including a Mac Plus
with a website on floppy, machines running System 6 and AU/X. I've
even visited a website hosted on a Commodore 64, I seem to recall.
But never a PS/2 one.
It's down at the moment, but anchor.ikickass.org is a PS/2 Model 95.
Peace... Sridhar
10 Sep
10 Sep
8:27 p.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
On 11/09/2007, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
Liam Proven wrote:
Cheers for that!
M95, eh? That's quite a modern one, isn't it - a 486 or even a Pentium?
I am considering trying to put my old Model 80-A21 - once the LAN
server on my home net - on the Web as a webserver. I like the idea of
a webserver that is significantly older than the Web itself. :-)
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Merely curious. Does anyone know of any IBM PS/2
machines - the proper
Microchannel ones - hosting websites today?
I know of a number of very old Macs doing so, including a Mac Plus
with a website on floppy, machines running System 6 and AU/X. I've
even visited a website hosted on a Commodore 64, I seem to recall.
But never a PS/2 one.
It's down at the moment, but anchor.ikickass.org is a PS/2 Model 95.
11:32 p.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
Liam Proven wrote:
Cheers for that!
M95, eh? That's quite a modern one, isn't it - a 486 or even a Pentium?
It's an AMD K6-2, believe it or not. I have another mod 95 as a print
server. I chose it because it has two parallel ports on the
motherboard. I could probably switch to something that uses less juice,
but it's been so freakin' rock-solid that I don't feel I should screw
with it. It's running four printers. Two parallel, one serial and one
SCSI.
I am considering trying to put my old Model 80-A21 -
once the LAN
server on my home net - on the Web as a webserver. I like the idea of
a webserver that is significantly older than the Web itself. :-)
I'd consider an 8580-Axx newish. It has *gasp* CACHE!
I have a video editing workstation built out of an 8550. A whole 10MHz!!!
I've collected microchannel hardware for a number of years.
Peace... Sridhar
11:57 p.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
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From: "Sridhar Ayengar" <ploopster at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
I have a video editing workstation built out of an
8550. A whole 10MHz!!!
I've collected microchannel hardware for a number of years.
Peace... Sridhar
What MCA hardware is used for video editing?
11 Sep
11 Sep
12:37 a.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
Teo Zenios wrote:
M-Motion Video Capture Adapter/A. Only does 640x480x16, but has *loads*
of I/O. The editing is done in software, very slowly.
Peace... Sridhar
I have a video
editing workstation built out of an 8550. A whole 10MHz!!!
I've collected microchannel hardware for a number of years.
What MCA hardware is used for video editing?
9:37 a.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
On 11/09/2007, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
:?) Indeed. Runs Windows NT 3.51 SP5 really well for its age, too.
But AFAIK, it's contemporaneous with the other Model 80s, as part of
the original range.
IIRC:
30 - slimline desktop 8086 (ISA, MCGA)
50 - desktop 286
60 - tower 286
70 - desktop 386
80 - desktop 386
Liam Proven wrote:
Wow!
A SCSI *printer*?! What on Earth is that?
Cheers for that!
M95, eh? That's quite a modern one, isn't it - a 486 or even a Pentium?
It's an AMD K6-2, believe it or not. I have another mod 95 as a print
server. I chose it because it has two parallel ports on the
motherboard. I could probably switch to something that uses less juice,
but it's been so freakin' rock-solid that I don't feel I should screw
with it. It's running four printers. Two parallel, one serial and one
SCSI. I am
considering trying to put my old Model 80-A21 - once the LAN
server on my home net - on the Web as a webserver. I like the idea of
a webserver that is significantly older than the Web itself. :-)
I'd consider an 8580-Axx newish. It has *gasp* CACHE! I have a video editing workstation built out of an
8550. A whole 10MHz!!!
[Boggle]
I've collected microchannel hardware for a number
of years.
I don't have the space, but it was the state of the art when I started
my first job & I still have great affection for it. The only things
I've seen which rival it for build quality are the PowerMac G5s and
later.
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10:06 a.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
Liam Proven wrote:
Wow!
A SCSI *printer*?! What on Earth is that?
It's a continuous-tone dye-sub photo printer. And the serial one is
actually a pen-plotter, but I count it as a printer.
:?) Indeed. Runs Windows NT 3.51 SP5 really well for its age, too.
But AFAIK, it's contemporaneous with the other Model 80s, as part of
the original range.
It actually came out about a year and a half later. Mid-1989?
You should at least pick up one of the last-generation microchannel
RS/6000s. Some of them can still be considered reasonably quick today.
Peace... Sridhar
M95, eh? That's quite a modern one, isn't it -
a 486 or even a Pentium?
It's an AMD K6-2, believe it or not. I have another
mod 95 as a print
server. I chose it because it has two parallel ports on the
motherboard. I could probably switch to something that uses less juice,
but it's been so freakin' rock-solid that I don't feel I should screw
with it. It's running four printers. Two parallel, one serial and one
SCSI. I am considering trying to put my old Model 80-A21 -
once the LAN
server on my home net - on the Web as a webserver. I like the idea of
a webserver that is significantly older than the Web itself. :-)
I'd consider
an 8580-Axx newish. It has *gasp* CACHE! IIRC:
30 - slimline desktop 8086 (ISA, MCGA)
50 - desktop 286
60 - tower 286
70 - desktop 386
80 - desktop 386
^^^^^^^^^^^
I assume this was supposed to read "tower 386".
I have a video
editing workstation built out of an 8550. A whole 10MHz!!!
[Boggle]
I've collected microchannel hardware for a
number of years.
I don't have the space, but it was the state of the art when I started
my first job & I still have great affection for it. The only things
I've seen which rival it for build quality are the PowerMac G5s and
later.
1:23 p.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
On 11/09/2007, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
:?) Indeed. Runs Windows NT 3.51 SP5 really well for its age, too.
But AFAIK, it's contemporaneous with the other Model 80s, as part of
the original range.
It actually came out about a year and a half later. Mid-1989?
Oh really? I didn't know that. Thanks for enlightening me!
I did. My apologies; I screwed up when reformatting from a paragraph to a list.
You should at least pick up one of the last-generation microchannel
RS/6000s. Some of them can still be considered reasonably quick today.
Strangely tempting... But I need to get rid of about half a dozen old
PCs and Macs first.
Anyone in SE England want a free 68k Mac? Got 1 or 2 PowerPCs, too.
I'll fix it up & put a clean install of the OS on first...
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Liam Proven wrote:
Wow!
A SCSI *printer*?! What on Earth is that?
It's a continuous-tone dye-sub photo printer. And the serial one is
actually a pen-plotter, but I count it as a printer.
Cool!
M95, eh? That's quite a modern one, isn't it -
a 486 or even a Pentium?
It's an AMD K6-2, believe it or not. I have another
mod 95 as a print
server. I chose it because it has two parallel ports on the
motherboard. I could probably switch to something that uses less juice,
but it's been so freakin' rock-solid that I don't feel I should screw
with it. It's running four printers. Two parallel, one serial and one
SCSI. I am
considering trying to put my old Model 80-A21 - once the LAN
server on my home net - on the Web as a webserver. I like the idea of
a webserver that is significantly older than the Web itself. :-)
I'd consider
an 8580-Axx newish. It has *gasp* CACHE! IIRC:
30 - slimline desktop 8086 (ISA, MCGA)
50 - desktop 286
60 - tower 286
70 - desktop 386
80 - desktop 386
^^^^^^^^^^^
I assume this was supposed to read "tower 386". I have a video editing workstation built out of an
8550. A whole 10MHz!!!
[Boggle]
I've collected microchannel hardware for a
number of years.
I don't have the space, but it was the state of the art when I started
my first job & I still have great affection for it. The only things
I've seen which rival it for build quality are the PowerMac G5s and
later. 
11:06 a.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
John Foust wrote:
At 08:37 AM 9/11/2007, Liam Proven wrote:
True, sounds like Sridhar may have the same type of printer that I do.
It's a dye sublimation printer, what's cool about it (at least mine is
this way) is that it has a Sun SparcStation built into the printer! It
has parallel, scsi, and ethernet interfaces. It was designed to print
graphics images so you'd always be chunking large files over to it. It
actually worked quite well and very good scaling algorithms (I have
printouts from my old <1megapixel camera that look as good printed 6x8
as many modern setups (does a very respectable job at 8.6x11 as well).
I believe mine have a SparcStation Classic internally. You can hook up
a terminal to it's serial port and log into the Sparc.
George
Wow! A SCSI *printer*?! What on Earth is that?
It wasn't a odd choice in pre-USB, pre-Firewire prehistory. If you
need to move lots of data to a raster printer, SCSI was an option.
- John
11:17 a.m.
New subject: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
George Currie wrote:
True, sounds like Sridhar may have the same type of printer that I do.
It's a dye sublimation printer, what's cool about it (at least mine is
this way) is that it has a Sun SparcStation built into the printer! It
has parallel, scsi, and ethernet interfaces. It was designed to print
graphics images so you'd always be chunking large files over to it. It
actually worked quite well and very good scaling algorithms (I have
printouts from my old <1megapixel camera that look as good printed 6x8
as many modern setups (does a very respectable job at 8.6x11 as well).
I believe mine have a SparcStation Classic internally. You can hook up
a terminal to it's serial port and log into the Sparc.
Mine doesn't have parallel or ethernet and uses software running Linux
as an outboard controller (the software runs on the aforementioned
PS/2), but the concept is similar.
Peace... Sridhar
Wow! A SCSI *printer*?! What on Earth is that?
It wasn't a odd choice in pre-USB, pre-Firewire prehistory. If you
need to move lots of data to a raster printer, SCSI was an option.
12 Sep
12 Sep
12:39 a.m.
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Some of the more recent Xerox color copiers/printers (ok, 10 ish years ago)
were SCSI based, and came with a "rendering engine" that was a headless
Sparc server.
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of John Foust
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:18 AM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: [SPAM(date)] Re: PS/2 webserver
At 08:37 AM 9/11/2007, Liam Proven wrote:
Wow! A SCSI *printer*?! What on Earth is that?
It wasn't a odd choice in pre-USB, pre-Firewire prehistory. If you
need to move lots of data to a raster printer, SCSI was an option.
- John
2:12 a.m.
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On Sep 12, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Geoff Reed wrote:
Some of the more recent Xerox color copiers/printers
(ok, 10 ish
years ago)
were SCSI based, and came with a "rendering engine" that was a
headless
Sparc server.
The one in question (Sridhar's Kodak XLT7720, I'm assuming that's
the one he's talking about) wasn't necessarily used in that manner.
I myself used it connected directly to a Mac running MacOS 9. It had
drivers that presented it as a Photoshop export device. It could be
a bit finicky, but the output quality was astonishing.
-Dave
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1:41 p.m.
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On 12/09/2007, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On Sep 12, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Geoff Reed wrote:
I sit illuminated and educated. Thanks!
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Some of the more recent Xerox color
copiers/printers (ok, 10 ish
years ago)
were SCSI based, and came with a "rendering engine" that was a
headless
Sparc server.
The one in question (Sridhar's Kodak XLT7720, I'm assuming that's
the one he's talking about) wasn't necessarily used in that manner.
I myself used it connected directly to a Mac running MacOS 9. It had
drivers that presented it as a Photoshop export device. It could be
a bit finicky, but the output quality was astonishing. 
11 Sep
11 Sep
10:46 a.m.
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A SCSI *printer*?! What on Earth is that?
That's not so strange. There were several Apple LaserWriters that
connected that way (the SC comes to mind), and many LaserWriters had
SCSI ports for connecting hard disks with external fonts.
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12 Sep
2:10 a.m.
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On Sep 11, 2007, at 9:37 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
SCSI printers aren't all that uncommon, especially high-end
devices. The one Sridhar is talking about used to be mine. It's an
industrial-strength device that was designed to be embedded in
medical imaging systems. There were two versions of that model, SCSI
and GPIB.
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server. I
chose it because it has two parallel ports on the
motherboard. I could probably switch to something that uses less
juice,
but it's been so freakin' rock-solid that I don't feel I should screw
with it. It's running four printers. Two parallel, one serial
and one
SCSI.
Wow!
A SCSI *printer*?! What on Earth is that?
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