16 Dec
2001
16 Dec
'01
1:21 p.m.
Hand made, usually by women working under low
power microscopes.
Allison
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From: Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)cnonline.net>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, December 16, 2001 6:01 PM
Subject: was "how to clean".. How did they
or... silly question of the week...
Anyone know how core memory was made?
Did a person string those cores with a needle and
"thread", or was it done by machine?
17 Dec
17 Dec
10:24 a.m.
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, ajp166 wrote:
Hand made, usually by women working under low power
microscopes.
And they had women doing the work because they apparently are better
at working with their hands (i.e. needlework).
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9:35 a.m.
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:24:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: was "how to clean".. How did they
Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
And they had women doing the work because they
apparently are better
at working with their hands (i.e. needlework).
Women, hmm but don't kid youself, many men are capable of this
task because in old days and still is repairing mechanical watches
even still make them and produce replacement parts by hand.
Those mechanical wind up and analog quartz watches still require
cleaning and lubing. Been there and have shirt for clocks and
watches on making precision parts and also for computers.
With more
practice and proper tools, I can on more diffcult parts of certain
parts in timepieces. But I can't yet due to no funds available for
those tools I can machine fine parts by hand.
Smallest wind-up watch that you can buy is (out of it's casing)
size of 4 dimes stacked by seiko or russian made (cardial).
Cheers,
Wizard
Sellam Ismail
Vintage Computer Festival
PS: Asolute master clock-maker can produce very accurate time-pieces
suitable for nav. Beauiful piece of work! :-)
3:28 p.m.
Not to be sexist or rude but I think that women have a better tolerance for
boring tedious work while sitting on their butts for long periods of time.
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:25 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: was "how to clean".. How did they
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, ajp166 wrote:
Hand made, usually by women working under low power
microscopes.
And they had women doing the work because they apparently are better
at working with their hands (i.e. needlework).
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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3:55 p.m.
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, ajp166 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Russ Blakeman
wrote:
Hand made, usually by women working under low
power microscopes.
And they had women doing the work because they apparently are
better
at working with their hands (i.e. needlework). Not to be sexist or rude but I think that women have a
better tolerance for
boring tedious work while sitting on their butts for long periods of time.
And keeping in mind that we are talking about IBM and the like, they would
hire women for it because they could get away with paying them less.
4:56 p.m.
Yep, another primary consideration!
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From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Fred Cisin
(XenoSoft)
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:55 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: was "how to clean".. How did they
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, ajp166 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Russ Blakeman
wrote:
Hand made, usually by women working under low
power microscopes.
And they had women doing the work because they apparently are
better
at working with their hands (i.e. needlework). Not to be sexist or rude but I think that women have a
better tolerance
for
boring tedious work while sitting on their butts for
long periods of time.
And keeping in mind that we are talking about IBM and the like, they would
hire women for it because they could get away with paying them less.
10:28 p.m.
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
Actually, for manufacturing operators, in IBM, women on average make more
than men.
Peace... Sridhar
On Sun, 16 Dec
2001, ajp166 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Russ Blakeman
wrote:
Hand made, usually by women working under low
power microscopes.
And they had women doing the work because they apparently are
better
at working with their hands (i.e. needlework). Not to be sexist or rude but I think that women
have a better tolerance for
boring tedious work while sitting on their butts for long periods of time.
And keeping in mind that we are talking about IBM and the like, they would
hire women for it because they could get away with paying them less. 
4:50 p.m.
At 08:28 PM 12/17/01 -0600, you wrote:
Not to be sexist or rude but I think that women have a
better tolerance for
boring tedious work while sitting on their butts for long periods of time.
The other side of that is that they can concentrate better and longer,
right? You just did us males a dis-favor, especially male surgeons,
male artists, ...
carlos.
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Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org
5:36 p.m.
Not to be sexist or rude but I think that women have a
better
tolerance for boring tedious work while.... (snip).
Maybe its a good time to spring this one.
I had heard that core stringing was so demanding
that one company offered full retirement benefits for
people who hung in there for x=?=6 years or so.
John A.
18 Dec
18 Dec
6:08 a.m.
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, John Allain wrote:
Maybe its a good time to spring this one.
I had heard that core stringing was so demanding
that one company offered full retirement benefits for
people who hung in there for x=?=6 years or so.
And I have heard that they did most of it in third world countries, so
that they would NOT have to supply benefits, such as health care, and
could abandon workers when they could no longer perform. When they
discontinued operations, do you suppose that they made provision for
current workers, such as relocation to active operations, retraining,
etc.?
Are we talking about the same compan(y|ies)?
And what percentage SURVIVED x=?=6 years? That work had a MAJOR toll on
eyesight, mild RTS, etc.
Analogy: The US promised US citizenship to Philipino soldiers. They
stalled more than 50 years until the majority had died of old age, but
then granted it. Did the US keep its promise?
17 Dec
17 Dec
7:27 p.m.
That's not being sexist or rude - it's FACT.
I used to work for a company that made meter movements - very tedious work.
The entire room where this assembly and repair was conducted was full of
women. They worked all day long using magnifying lenses and lamps. The
portion of the manufacturing area that I was assigned to had to be
temporarily moved to this room, and we were the only men there.
All day long these women would work and discuss husbands/boyfriends, soap
operas, and gossip about everyone in town. Originally, men were used for
this kind of work and too many of them went nuts after a while. There were
women working in this room that had been around for a few years, with some
having 10-20 years of experience in this particular job.
It's been proven that women can handle tedious, meticulous jobs day in and
day out better than the average man. After seeing what those women in the
meter room did all day long, it was easy for me to see just how quickly a
guy would go bonkers doing that kind of work.
Just a personal observation.....
- Matt
At 08:28 PM 12/17/2001 -0600, you wrote:
Not to be sexist or rude but I think that women have a
better tolerance for
boring tedious work while sitting on their butts for long periods of time.
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From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Sellam Ismail
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:25 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: was "how to clean".. How did they
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, ajp166 wrote:
Matthew Sell
Programmer
On Time Support, Inc.
www.ontimesupport.com
(281) 296-6066
Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST!
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Hand made, usually by women working under low
power microscopes.
And they had women doing the work because they apparently are better
at working with their hands (i.e. needlework).
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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18 Dec
18 Dec
9:30 a.m.
New subject: Getting OT: RE: was "how to clean".. How did they
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Matthew Sell wrote:
All day long these women would work and discuss
husbands/boyfriends,
soap operas, and gossip about everyone in town. Originally, men were
used for this kind of work and too many of them went nuts after a
while. There were women working in this room that had been around for
a few years, with some having 10-20 years of experience in this
particular job.
It's been proven that women can handle tedious, meticulous jobs day in
and day out better than the average man. After seeing what those women
in the meter room did all day long, it was easy for me to see just how
quickly a guy would go bonkers doing that kind of work.
The gossip is what keeps them going. The work is secondary :)
<runs and hides>
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