9 Nov
2020
9 Nov
'20
3:44 p.m.
I am wondering if anyone else has tried using an Android Phone (a Note 10 in
my case) with the default Samsung email client to post to this list?
Whenever I post, even though the message is correctly formatted on my
device, all the CR/LF are removed from my messages. See below for an
example:
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Can it still be registered?>Is the Author find
able? Do he still have 8"
floppies? > *** Will it NOT be lost in the mail
with COVID 19 ***A deep
googlefu might find the author... just saying...;)
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However, when I sent it, it looked like this:
Can it still be registered?
Is the Author find able? Do he still have 8" floppies?
*** Will it NOT be lost in the mail with COVID 19 ***
A deep googlefu might find the author... just saying...;)
Sending from trusty old Outlook 2007 on Win 7 works fine with the list and
emailing people back directly from the phone seems to work fine as well. It
is only when I am replying to the list that the issue occurs. Any
ideas/suggestions? TIA!
-Ali
9 Nov
9 Nov
4:01 p.m.
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 00:44, Ali via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Any
ideas/suggestions? TIA!
https://k9mail.app/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en&gl=…
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4:28 p.m.
Any
ideas/suggestions? TIA!
https://k9mail.app/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en&gl=…
10 Nov
10 Nov
2:31 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Ali via cctalk
Sent: 10 November 2020 00:28
To: 'Liam Proven' <lproven at gmail.com>; 'General Discussion: On-Topic
and
Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android
Mail Client
I should have been more clear: any ideas on how can I fix the default email
client (as it works very well for me aside from this one issue). :D
That is like asking how do you fix Windows/10 MAIL app. It?s the default, it sends and
receives mail. If you want something that works better and gives you control then you
switch to a supported app.
There is also Outlook and a GMAIL app for Samsung.
Any
ideas/suggestions? TIA!
https://k9mail.app/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en&gl=…
Thanks.
-Ali
Dave
3:45 a.m.
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 11:31, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
That is like asking how do you fix Windows/10 MAIL app. It?s the default, it sends and
receives mail. If you want something that works better and gives you control then you
switch to a supported app.
There is also Outlook and a GMAIL app for Samsung.
What Dave said.
Proper old-fashioned internet-standard email is totally unknown to the
authors of modern email clients, such as for phones etc.
No, you can't fix it.
If you want to write/reply to old-style plain-text email from a
fondleslab, then use K9Mail. It is the only mobile client I know of
that can handle bottom-posting, trimming quotes etc.
You can do it by hand with a lot of work in the Gmail client, but it
means manual selection and trimming etc. I have not found any way to
force plain text on mobile.
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9:18 a.m.
On 11/10/20 3:45 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
Proper old-fashioned internet-standard email is totally unknown to the
authors of modern email clients, such as for phones etc.
Hell, even Gmail borked the display of plain text emails a while back.
I started getting questions like, "What happened to the formatting of
these auto-emails?" Gmail. Gmail happened.
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10:27 a.m.
Hello,
On 11/10/20 3:45 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
Proper old-fashioned internet-standard email
is totally unknown to the authors of modern email clients,
such as for phones etc.
Most of them, yes. Then there is K-9 mail for Android,
which almost makes me to not miss Mutt, when using the phone.
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11 Nov
11 Nov
10:05 a.m.
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 19:27, Angel M Alganza via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Most of them, yes. Then there is K-9 mail for
Android,
which almost makes me to not miss Mutt, when using the phone.
Which is what I proposed in the first reply, complete with links.
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8:23 a.m.
If you want to write/reply to old-style plain-text
email from a
fondleslab, then use K9Mail. It is the only mobile client I know of
that can handle bottom-posting, trimming quotes etc.
Well K9 is getting a number of recs here so I will take a second look at it. I looked at
it initially but then saw it hadn't been updated since 2018. However, looks like there
is active working going on and a new version is slated for release sure (BETAs are
available for evaluation).
-Ali
8:42 a.m.
On 11/11/2020 11:23 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote:
FWIW, I used to use K9 mail and liked it but it was crashing with a
large number of folders and emails in folders.
I switched to Blue mail and it's worked well
Todd
If you want to
write/reply to old-style plain-text email from a
fondleslab, then use K9Mail. It is the only mobile client I know of
that can handle bottom-posting, trimming quotes etc.
Well K9 is getting a number of recs here so I will take a second look at it. I looked at
it initially but then saw it hadn't been updated since 2018. However, looks like there
is active working going on and a new version is slated for release sure (BETAs are
available for evaluation).
-Ali
8:49 a.m.
FWIW, I used to use K9 mail and liked it but it was crashing with a
large number of folders and emails in folders.
I switched to Blue mail and it's worked well
Funny you say this; I just finished setting up K9 for my CCtalk email as a test case. Your
message was the first one to arrive I hit reply all and the program crashed on me. A
second attempt allows me to reply but it is quoting the original mail below my reply even
though I have the option set for the quote to be on top.
So far not impressed but I am using the latest BETA so I am going to switch to the last
stable release from 2018 and see if it works any better.
-Ali
9:02 a.m.
On November 11, 2020 8:42:09 AM PST, Todd Goodman via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 11/11/2020 11:23 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote:
at it. I
looked at it initially but then saw it hadn't been updated
since 2018. However, looks like there is active working going on and a
new version is slated for release sure (BETAs are available for
evaluation).
Ok. So as far as top posting goes it is a bit confusing. When you reply, and are composing
your message, the original message is shown below the reply area. However, when the reply
is sent the original message is on top of the reply.
In any case this is not the behavior I wanted. I would like to see the message quoted on
top and then be able to inline edit the quoted text to reply to specific portion of the
email. Is there an option to set this?
I will try Blue Mail next. Thanks.
-Ali
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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
If you
want to write/reply to old-style plain-text email from a
fondleslab, then use K9Mail. It is the only mobile client I know of
that can handle bottom-posting, trimming quotes etc.
Well K9 is getting a number of recs here so I will take a second look
-Ali
FWIW, I used to use K9 mail and liked it but it was crashing with a
large number of folders and emails in folders.
I switched to Blue mail and it's worked well
Todd 
9 Nov
9 Nov
5:40 p.m.
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020, Ali via cctalk wrote:
I am wondering if anyone else has tried using an
Android Phone (a Note 10 in
my case) with the default Samsung email client to post to this list?
Whenever I post, even though the message is correctly formatted on my
device, all the CR/LF are removed from my messages. See below for an
example:
A WILD guess as to PART of what's causing it, . . .
It may be defaulting to HTML.
Is there a setting for HTML/plain-text? (if so, it might still not
process plain-text properly; many "developers" consider it to be beneath
them to include real plain-text support)
Many/most html processors ignore CRLF, considering that to be merely
composing white-space, not part of the intended result.
When I was first trying to create raw HTML for my crude websites, I found
that whatever whitespace I put into my raaw HTML was ignored, and I had
to force breaks, extra space, tabs, etc.
Try putting in <br> (less than, b r , greater than)
See whether it gives us that literally, or puts in a break.
Is the mail client sending directly, or is it relaying it through
something else?
8:42 p.m.
Fred,
A WILD guess as to PART of what's causing it, . .
.
It may be defaulting to HTML.
Is there a setting for HTML/plain-text? (if so, it might still not
process plain-text properly; many "developers" consider it to be
beneath
them to include real plain-text support)
It does not. I think it looks at the MIME type of message to decide what to
do. What it may have to do is when I try to top post. I.e. if I try to reply
under the quoted original message then this seems to happen. However, if I
type above the quoted message it does not happen.
Is the mail client sending directly, or is it relaying
it through
something else?
It is sending directly through my SMTP server.
-Ali
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