30 Dec
2017
30 Dec
'17
6:01 p.m.
Are any of you aware of an MTS mailing list that lives outside of the
execrable Yahoo groups environment? And if not, is there any interest in
starting one?
Meanwhile, if there are any MTS hacks on the list, I have a question:
When running *SAV or *SVW, what are the labels the system is expecting for the
FSnnnn tapes? I tried the obvious - FS2001 for the FS2001 tape prompted
for - but no luck there. Then again, maybe I'm not labeling the tapes
properly.
This is under Hercules.
hetinit -d fs2001.aws FS2001 MTS
doesn't cut it. I also tried running *lbh against that tape (to give it the
same label), but no luck there, either.
The MTS operator's guide doesn't have anything to say about daily/weekly
backups, other than the cryptic notes on the *SAV and *SVW files, and I can't
find anything else as I dig through the rest of the online system docs.
$HELP ?
--lyndon
6:58 p.m.
On 2017-Dec-30, at 6:26 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:
mts???
as in manitoba telcome services now known as bellmts??
No, Michigan Terminal System.
A timesharing system for IBM 360/370 series mainframes, used and maintained at a number of
universities from the late 60s through early 90s for campus-wide computing services.
7:12 p.m.
o neat
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 2017-Dec-30, at 6:26 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk
wrote:
mts???
as in manitoba telcome services now known as bellmts??
No, Michigan Terminal System.
A timesharing system for IBM 360/370 series mainframes, used and
maintained at a number of universities from the late 60s through early 90s
for campus-wide computing services. 
11:27 p.m.
Lyndon,
Seeing as the folks who set up the original distribution are on the Yahoo
list it's the best place to ask questions. I assume you don't want to set
up a Yahoo account? Facebook perhaps?
Dave
(I think I own the yahoo H390-MTS group but its been quiet for ages)
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Lyndon
Nerenberg via cctalk
Sent: 31 December 2017 02:02
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists
Are any of you aware of an MTS mailing list that lives outside of the
execrable
Yahoo groups environment? And if not, is there any
interest in starting
one?
Meanwhile, if there are any MTS hacks on the list, I have a question:
When running *SAV or *SVW, what are the labels the system is expecting for
the FSnnnn tapes? I tried the obvious - FS2001 for the FS2001 tape
prompted
for - but no luck there. Then again, maybe I'm
not labeling the tapes
properly.
This is under Hercules.
hetinit -d fs2001.aws FS2001 MTS
doesn't cut it. I also tried running *lbh against that tape (to give it
the
same
label), but no luck there, either.
The MTS operator's guide doesn't have anything to say about daily/weekly
backups, other than the cryptic notes on the *SAV and *SVW files, and I
can't
find anything else as I dig through the rest of the
online system docs.
$HELP ?
--lyndon
31 Dec
31 Dec
4:12 p.m.
Lyndon,
Seeing as the folks who set up the original distribution are on the Yahoo
list it's the best place to ask questions. I assume you don't want to set
up a Yahoo account? Facebook perhaps?
I did fight my way thought the Yahoo interface to get onto at least one of
the MTS groups via the mailing list interface. But after falling off that
a couple of times, for unknown reasons, I gave up. And as I mentioned,
the Yahoo Groups web interface is just too horrible to contemplate.
And no, I don't do Facebook, either. But that wouldn't make a difference
in this case.
I pine for the simplicity of mailing lists. Then again, Yahoo, as
co-instigators of DMARC, are ensuring the end of mailing lists as we've
known and loved them for the past three decades.
--lyndon
5 p.m.
Ok well I have checked and it looks like Lyndon is on the yahoo MTS list,
but his mail supplier may be filing as spam.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Lyndon Nerenberg [mailto:lyndon at orthanc.ca]
Sent: 01 January 2018 00:13
To: Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>
Cc: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists
the
Lyndon,
Seeing as the folks who set up the original distribution are on the
Yahoo list it's the best place to ask questions. I assume you don't
want to set up a Yahoo account? Facebook perhaps?
I did fight my way thought the Yahoo interface to get onto at least one of MTS groups via the mailing list interface. But after
falling off that a
couple of
times, for unknown reasons, I gave up. And as I
mentioned, the Yahoo
Groups web interface is just too horrible to contemplate.
And no, I don't do Facebook, either. But that wouldn't make a difference
in
this case.
I pine for the simplicity of mailing lists. Then again, Yahoo, as
co-instigators
of
DMARC, are ensuring the end of mailing lists as
we've known and loved them
for the past three decades.
--lyndon
5:04 p.m.
Ok well I have checked and it looks like Lyndon is on
the yahoo MTS list,
but his mail supplier may be filing as spam.
Umm ... his email supplier is him. I've been running my own mail servers
since the early 1980s. If anything is getting bounced, it's because my
email servers brand the content (not list) as spam, no better or worse
then they brand any other traffic. (Hint: spamassassin and xbl.)
--lyndon
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