Billy Pettit wrote: I hesitate to get involved in such a contentious issue, but I think you've misunderstood his intent. The putative guy (or gal) in Russia cannot be a criminal: if he is then you've chosen the wrong country and need a quick s/Russia/Elsewhere/g. The guys uploading the software are (I assume) breaking US copyright laws. Then again the guys making stuff available of the existing FTP sites are presumably breaking exactly the same laws to at least the same extent. (Presumably if they are also hosting an archive and are within the purview of US law then they're breaking even more US laws). If you send stuff to someone so that they can scan it and make it available on the net (or in any other form), are you breaking the law? I can see why Hex Star's comments might rub you up the wrong way, but he's young (or at least he claims he is, and his sentence structure does back him up in his claim :-)) so I'd cut him some slack. At least he might still be archiving stuff after we're all gone. Antonio -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.14/727 - Release Date: 19/03/2007 11:49

On 3/19/07, Billy Pettit <Billy.Pettit at wdc.com> wrote: No need to be such a jerk... Trust me, there are people who type sentences on message boards in a much worse format then me, this definetly is not the worst nor bad by any means. If you can't handle internet chat formats then you really do not belong on the internet...as classic old timers like you guys sadly fade away in time more of people like me with our new slang and ways of formatting messages will come in and a version of formatting you're not familiar with and probably would be quite hostile like you were to me to the new format that will come. Times change as things change hands and different eras take place, the 1990s and below were one thing, the 200s and up are quite another. My comment about Russia is NOT just to bypass US law, it is so that we can upload things like Photoshop 2.0 and such which is not yet through the 70 year copyright experation law and as such one could still potentially be sued by Adobe for spreading such copies of their software. However if one was to host in Russia we'd be able to host said copies of Photoshop for our vintage macs, and things like RAM Charger. The idea is NOT intended to be such that people go and upload Mac OS X versions and whatnot to our archive and it becomes a warez breeding ground. Absolutely not! It would merely be a way to assure everyone that the sharing of 1980s-1990s vintage mac software could be shared in the archive(s) without having the government on our backs (which is unlikely due to the softwares age and the companies moving on but still they could do it if they so wished). This would also allow us to host Mac OS 1 and whatnot and be able to ignore cease and desist orders from Apple. So to wrap it up, the comment is NOT intended to mean yeah, let's host in Russia so that we can turn our vintage archive into a mac warez archive! No, it's meant to mean that there's a possibility of getting hosting in Russia so we could upload copies of RAM Charger, Photoshop 2.0, Mac OS 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7.x without having to worry about being forced to remove the files like other sites have been. It would merely be a extra measure to ensure the integrity and longevity of our archive and the rare vintage files enclosed in it. (btw, the files I'm referring to are vintage mac files as that's my specialty but obviously this would apply to other applicable files for other vintage computers) see what I mean? :-) and this is not meant to be a selfish thing so I can get all the files I want as Billy claimed, this is meant to help benefit all of us in our joint venture to preserve what's still left of the vintage computer files and our associated archives