BTW, does anybody know if Radius sold their Mac Full Page Display under any other names? I think I have one, but I don't recall the brand at the moment.. Chris, don't you know that NJ (the Landfill state) isn't supposed to get the good trash, just the smelly stuff... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash