5 May
1999
5 May
'99
9:52 p.m.
Is it possible to make a bootable floppy for a
VAXStation 2000 or is the
system too large for the disk?
A VMS installation is way too large for a single floppy, of course.
I think a VMS distribution or backup onto floppies is about as cruel
as the Wagner ring cycle on 45's! But if you're into self-abuse
and huge piles of floppy disks, it is possible.
If it is possible, what is the procedure?
It is possible, of course. Boot VMS, log in as the system manager,
and do a @SYS$UPDATE:STABACKIT to build the standalone backup tool
on floppies. You can then do a backup of the system disk onto floppies
(preferably using the STABACKIT kit you just generated to test your
copy of standalone backup). But if at all possible, get a tape drive!
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6 May
6 May
9:37 a.m.
On Thu, 6 May 1999 CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com wrote:
OK, that rather confirms my suspicion. Thanks, Tim.
Good information, even if I never use it. More thanks.
- don
Is it possible
to make a bootable floppy for a VAXStation 2000 or is the
system too large for the disk?
A VMS installation is way too large for a single floppy, of course.
I think a VMS distribution or backup onto floppies is about as cruel
as the Wagner ring cycle on 45's! But if you're into self-abuse
and huge piles of floppy disks, it is possible. If it is
possible, what is the procedure?
It is possible, of course. Boot VMS, log in as the system manager,
and do a @SYS$UPDATE:STABACKIT to build the standalone backup tool
on floppies. You can then do a backup of the system disk onto floppies
(preferably using the STABACKIT kit you just generated to test your
copy of standalone backup). But if at all possible, get a tape drive! --
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
12:19 p.m.
New subject: Read this.
nice reading on
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/199905/199905.htm
have a look.
H.
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10:36 a.m.
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10:41 a.m.
New subject: URLs
Not everybody uses this week's web browser.
In fact SOME people use e-mail programs that are NOT part of a current
"state-of-the-art" web browser. To go view a web site is still perfectly
feasible, but it may require exiting the mail program, and starting up a
separate program for web browsing; or even logging out and logging into a
different account; or even switching over to a different computer.
NOT JUST "clicking" on a spot in the mail message!
Therefore, when you have a great web site that you'd like to share,
wouldn't it be NICE to say a sentence or so about what it is; rather than
just: "Look at http://www...."
--
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12:54 p.m.
New subject: URLs
Not everybody uses this week's web browser.
In fact SOME people use e-mail programs that are NOT
part of a current
"state-of-the-art" web browser. To go view a web site is still perfectly
feasible, but it may require exiting the mail program, and starting up a
separate program for web browsing; or even logging out and logging into a
different account; or even switching over to a different computer.
NOT JUST "clicking" on a spot in the mail message!
Therefore, when you have a great web site that
you'd like to share,
wouldn't it be NICE to say a sentence or so about what it is; rather than
just: "Look at http://www...."
This may be aimed at me - yes, you're right, I never have
thought of any problems in bringing up a browser.
In fact, I also don't use any fancy integrated software - just
a plain mail reader, that's also the reason why I always put
an URL on a single line - it is just the easyest way to pick it
via your mouse and insert it in the 'Location' box, or on the
command line (Yes, my Linux Box never had seen any X - just
marking with the GNU mouse, press ALT-Fx, type 'lynx' and insert
the marked URL). (Or just configure your PINE in using Lynx as
a subshell.)
Anyway, sorry for hitting your nerves.
Gruss
Hans
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H.Achternbusch
11:12 a.m.
New subject: URLs
On Thu, 6 May 1999, Hans Franke wrote:
Can you give a brief tutorial on configuring PINE that way, Hans?
- don
Not everybody
uses this week's web browser.
In fact SOME people use e-mail programs that are
NOT part of a current
"state-of-the-art" web browser. To go view a web site is still perfectly
feasible, but it may require exiting the mail program, and starting up a
separate program for web browsing; or even logging out and logging into a
different account; or even switching over to a different computer.
NOT JUST "clicking" on a spot in the mail message!
Therefore, when you have a great web site that
you'd like to share,
wouldn't it be NICE to say a sentence or so about what it is; rather than
just: "Look at http://www...."
This may be aimed at me - yes, you're right, I never have
thought of any problems in bringing up a browser.
In fact, I also don't use any fancy integrated software - just
a plain mail reader, that's also the reason why I always put
an URL on a single line - it is just the easyest way to pick it
via your mouse and insert it in the 'Location' box, or on the
command line (Yes, my Linux Box never had seen any X - just
marking with the GNU mouse, press ALT-Fx, type 'lynx' and insert
the marked URL). (Or just configure your PINE in using Lynx as
a subshell.) Anyway, sorry for hitting your nerves.
Gruss
Hans
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Der Kopf ist auch nur ein Auswuchs wie der kleine Zeh.
H.Achternbusch
7 May
7 May
6:44 a.m.
New subject: URLs
> In fact, I also don't use any fancy
integrated software - just
> a plain mail reader, that's also the reason why I always put
> an URL on a single line - it is just the easyest way to pick it
> via your mouse and insert it in the 'Location' box, or on the
> command line (Yes, my Linux Box never had seen any X - just
> marking with the GNU mouse, press ALT-Fx, type 'lynx' and insert
> the marked URL). (Or just configure your PINE in using Lynx as
> a subshell.)
Can you give a brief tutorial on configuring PINE that
way, Hans?
Brief ? Two ways:
a) use the spellchecker interface and add lynx via a script (I
did use perl, but shell might be possible) or
b) modify the sources and hook it on your own comand - not that
complicated (Source at
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu
if not within your actual LINUXarchives :)
Gruss
H.
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Der Kopf ist auch nur ein Auswuchs wie der kleine Zeh.
H.Achternbusch
5:12 a.m.
New subject: Identify this transputer board
Hi,
I picked up several transputer based hardware including
a B020, B008 and several trams including 2 SCSIs trams
and an ethernet tram. Among the collection, I found 2
wierd looking ones. One is a tram and the other I got
no idea how to use it.
The Tram is a size 4 tram and has the following labels:
T2SL
Paradise- 1/A
It contains what looks like an IDE connector and
has the following chips:
INMOS IMST222C
LOGIC L54C80JC-4
and two INMOS IMS1620S55 ICs.
The other card has an IMST800D-G20S chip
and has the following on the board:
VYTAL VTM 301
Copyright VYTAL LTD 1989
On the underside, it has a socket for another
transputer chip (maybe??).
Oh, there is another board too. It is also a size
4 tram and has a T805-G30S and the board is
from INMOS. There is a label on one of the IC
chips (written using a pen, so might not be
reliable) "B417-17 SE006".
Also, the B020 graphics card has no SIMMs on it.
Does anyone know what type of SIMMs I can use.
Finally, I got an ethernet tram without any cables.
What type of cable to I need to use it. It is an IMSB421
tram. The SCSI trams would probably use standard
SCSI cables. Am I right. Thanks for you help.
Ram
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5:34 a.m.
New subject: Identify this transputer board
Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote:
Oh, there is another board too. It is also a size
4 tram and has a T805-G30S and the board is
from INMOS. There is a label on one of the IC
chips (written using a pen, so might not be
reliable) "B417-17 SE006".
Oops, I just found the label on the board and it
is a B417. Anyone know what a IMSB417 is??
Ram
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7:41 a.m.
New subject: Identify this transputer board
Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote:
Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote:
Well, I think I know what it is. It might be a 4Meg
T805-G30S tram (must be an old one, never seen
a size 4 tram that holds 4Megs. It is usually size 1).
Can anyone confirm this??? Thanks
Ram
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Oh, there is another board too. It is also a size
4 tram and has a T805-G30S and the board is
from INMOS. There is a label on one of the IC
chips (written using a pen, so might not be
reliable) "B417-17 SE006".
Oops, I just found the label on the board and it
is a B417. Anyone know what a IMSB417 is??
8:47 a.m.
New subject: Identify this transputer board
Finally, I got an ethernet tram without any cables.
What type of cable to I need to use it. It is an IMSB421
tram.
Apparently, the IMSB421 is not an ethernet tram afterall.
It appears to be what is known as an GPIB (stands for
general purpose interface board maybe??). What can I use
this for????
Ram
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/'^'\
( o o )
-oOOO--(_)--OOOo-------------------------------------
| Ram Meenakshisundaram
| Senior Software Engineer
| OpenLink Financial Inc
| .oooO Phone: (516) 227-6600 x267
| ( ) Oooo. Email: rmeenaks(a)olf.com
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(_/
8:55 a.m.
New subject: Identify this transputer board
Ram Meenakshisundaram <rmeenaks(a)olf.com> wrote:
Apparently, the IMSB421 is not an ethernet tram
afterall.
It appears to be what is known as an GPIB (stands for
general purpose interface board maybe??). What can I use
this for????
GPIB or IEEE-488 is a parallel instrument interface.
I have a Fluke 5 digit DVM that has this interface. You
can also get oscilliscopes, power supplies, signal
generators and just about any othe lab equiptment with
this as there I/O interface. I've even seen it used
on printers.
Dwight
2:48 p.m.
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9:44 a.m.
New subject: URLs
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Hans Franke wrote:
Thanks! Major difference between us is you are using your own PINE and I
am using one from my shell account.
- don
> In fact, I also don't use any fancy
integrated software - just
> a plain mail reader, that's also the reason why I always put
> an URL on a single line - it is just the easyest way to pick it
> via your mouse and insert it in the 'Location' box, or on the
> command line (Yes, my Linux Box never had seen any X - just
> marking with the GNU mouse, press ALT-Fx, type 'lynx' and insert
> the marked URL). (Or just configure your PINE in using Lynx as
> a subshell.)
Can you give a brief tutorial on configuring PINE
that way, Hans?
Brief ? Two ways:
a) use the spellchecker interface and add lynx via a script (I
did use perl, but shell might be possible) or
b) modify the sources and hook it on your own comand - not that
complicated (Source at
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu
if not within your actual LINUXarchives :)
Gruss
H.
--
Der Kopf ist auch nur ein Auswuchs wie der kleine Zeh.
H.Achternbusch
12:17 p.m.
New subject: URLs
> > Can you give a brief tutorial on configuring
PINE that way, Hans?
> Brief ? Two ways:
> a) use the spellchecker interface and add lynx via a script (I
> did use perl, but shell might be possible) or
> b) modify the sources and hook it on your own comand - not that
> complicated (Source at
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu
> if not within your actual LINUXarchives :)
Thanks! Major difference between us is you are using
your own PINE and I
am using one from my shell account.
Can you write own procedures and change the PINE configuration ?
If yes, solution a) might still be possibe (or did they imprisson
you within a menue driven 'user friendly' frontend ?).
Gruss
H.
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HRK
2:34 p.m.
New subject: URLs
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Hans Franke wrote:
I'll have to look into that a bit. I do have access to and can tailor
.pinerc which I have d/l'd, but at this point I have little more than
scanned it.
- don
> > Can
you give a brief tutorial on configuring PINE that way, Hans?
> Brief ? Two ways:
> a) use the spellchecker interface and add lynx via a script (I
> did use perl, but shell might be possible) or
> b) modify the sources and hook it on your own comand - not that
> complicated (Source at
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu
> if not within your actual LINUXarchives :)
Thanks! Major difference between us is you are
using your own PINE and I
am using one from my shell account.
Can you write own procedures and change the PINE configuration ?
If yes, solution a) might still be possibe (or did they imprisson
you within a menue driven 'user friendly' frontend ?).
Gruss
H.
6 May
6 May
2:19 p.m.
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10:57 a.m.
New subject: Read this.
nice reading on
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/199905/199905.htm
And Mosaic gets all the credit, while Gopher is completely ignored
as a tcp/ip browser...
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