24 Apr
2006
24 Apr
'06
9:15 p.m.
RXed this machine on the weekend. It appears to be an Alpha of
some sort.
Physically looks like a generic ATX PC clone, in a standard ATX
case with powers supply - has PS/2 keyboard/mouse, two COM
and 1 LPT ports.
The board has two standard PCI slots, what appears to be two
extended (64 bit?) PCI slots, and two ISA slots.
Now the parts that don't look so much like a PC:
- The memory consists of an array of 4 DIMMs, which although I
haven't counted them, look like 168pin sockets. But the DIMMs
are about three times the height of a normal DIMM, and do say
"Digital" (as in DEC) on them.
- Honkin big ceramic CPU - has studs in it for mounting the heatsink
directly to the CPU chip.
Under the heatsink is the following printed on the ceramic edge of
the CPU:
DEC 1026J H 9707
PROTO JD0855
(C) (M) DEC 1995
It was pretty well stripped when I got it - Had installed what looks like a
generic S3 PCI video card (ie: looks like a PC card), and some sort
of ISA multi-channel video capture card. The mainboard has 2 IDE and
1 floppy connectors although no such drives or cabling were in it - There
was a SCSI CD in the enclosure, bit no SCSI controller (however several
of the backplates were missing suggesting there might have been
additional cards. The two cards that were in it were not actually fastened
in - so they may or may not belong with it.
Anyone know what this thing might be?
Unfortunately it doesn't appear to do anything - No video, no beeps, no
serial port activity, no toggeling of status lights on the keyboard - does
power-up and down with the front panel button, but does nothing else.
(It occurs to me that if the video card were not the correct one, the Alpha
obviously would not know how to run the x86 BIOS on a PC card and it
might either crash (if it tried to execute it), or get hung up because it
doesn't have a video device it can talk to. (I haven't tried the video card
in a PC, but I will at some point).
It's probably a doorstop, but I wanted to check and see if anyone
recognizes it --- the "PROTO" on the CPU seems interesting ...
Could this be a prototype of some sort?
Regards,
Dave
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24 Apr
24 Apr
8:33 p.m.
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 00:15, Dave Dunfield wrote:
RXed this machine on the weekend. It appears to be an
Alpha of
some sort.
Physically looks like a generic ATX PC clone, in a standard ATX
case with powers supply - has PS/2 keyboard/mouse, two COM
and 1 LPT ports.
This sounds like a bog-standard AlphaPC 164LX board. I've got a bunch
(with 533MHz 21164A's and one with a 600MHz 21164A) that I use as
webservers and such.
They use registered ECC PC100 DIMMs I think, but must be "low
densitiy" - they take any DIMM up to 128MB, and double-sided (18 chip)
256MB DIMMs.
They've got an x86 emulator in the BIOS, so you can use a PC PCI video
card, have on-board IDE and floppy interfaces (the IDE is really slow).
They can netboot from either Tulip-chipset cards, or Intel eepro 100
nics (if you have a new enough firmware). They can also boot off an
NCR/SYM53C875 chipset or Adaptec AHA2940 SCSI card (those are the only
ones I've tried).
It should also be able to do a serial console - try hooking something up
to the first serial port (9600-8-n-1), and see if you get a response.
Pat
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9:39 p.m.
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
They've got an x86 emulator in the BIOS, so you
can use a PC PCI video
card, have on-board IDE and floppy interfaces (the IDE is really slow).
They can netboot from either Tulip-chipset cards, or Intel eepro 100
nics (if you have a new enough firmware). They can also boot off an
NCR/SYM53C875 chipset or Adaptec AHA2940 SCSI card (those are the only
ones I've tried).
With the appropriate video card (and there are several PC video cards
that work) and a Qlogic ISP1040 it'll also run VMS.
Patrick put it mildly - there are no words for the performance of the
CMD640 IDE chipset. You *really* want fast SCSI to make it sing.
Other than the IDE, it's a sweet board.
It should also be able to do a serial console - try
hooking something up
to the first serial port (9600-8-n-1), and see if you get a response.
You can set the console from SMS/ARCBIOS, but IIRC if there's no
keyboard plugged in it'll come up to serial console automagically.
Doc
26 Apr
26 Apr
2:28 p.m.
Thanks guys for the info -- interesting about the x86 emulator to run
the video BIOS.
Looks like this machine is completely dead - I can't get any activity from
the video or serial ports - no beeps either.
Regards,
Dave
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2:03 p.m.
Dave Dunfield wrote:
Thanks guys for the info -- interesting about the x86
emulator to run
the video BIOS.
Looks like this machine is completely dead - I can't get any activity
from the video or serial ports - no beeps either.
If it was a DEC-produced board there should be a part number
(or several part numbers) of the form xx-xxxxx-xx. That would
identify it enough to (almost certainly) find the relevant
manuals.
Antonio
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2:55 p.m.
All,
On 4/26/06, Dave Dunfield <dave06a at dunfield.com> wrote:
Looks like this machine is completely dead - I
can't get any activity from
the video or serial ports - no beeps either.
Make sure the CPU fan is spinning. Stopping the CPU fan on my 164sx
stops the machine dead. Caused a bit if head scratching until I
noticed one of the cables rubbing against the fan.
Simon
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4:09 p.m.
All,
On 4/26/06, Dave Dunfield <dave06a at dunfield.com> wrote:
Ok - this is interesting ....
This machine is missing the CPU fan - I haven't worried about it yet, because
the large heat-sink is there, and my testing has not been for long enough durations
for it to get more than slightly warm ... does the board monitor the fan tach. and
shut down if it's does not see a pulse train?
Dave
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Looks like this machine is completely dead - I
can't get any activity from
the video or serial ports - no beeps either.
Make sure the CPU fan is spinning. Stopping the CPU fan on my 164sx
stops the machine dead. Caused a bit if head scratching until I
noticed one of the cables rubbing against the fan. 
3:48 p.m.
Anybody dismiss this as not a Multia yet?
Those things had tiny mainboards and a tendency
to burn themselves out, IE no responses to pwon.
They did certainly come with 4 mem slots and
166mhz Alphas.
John A.
3:55 p.m.
John Allain wrote:
Anybody dismiss this as not a Multia yet?
Those things had tiny mainboards and a tendency
to burn themselves out, IE no responses to pwon.
They did certainly come with 4 mem slots and
166mhz Alphas.
I didn't think that Multias were ATX format. That
sounds a lot more like the later 164LX/SX boards
(or the equivalent 3rd party boards).
Then again, I've never looked inside a Multia.
Antonio
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7:04 p.m.
John Allain wrote:
Anybody dismiss this as not a Multia yet?
Those things had tiny mainboards and a tendency
to burn themselves out, IE no responses to pwon.
They did certainly come with 4 mem slots and
166mhz Alphas.
The slowest Alpha ever made, I might add. The 21066.
Peace... Sridhar
4:18 p.m.
All,
On 4/27/06, Dave Dunfield <dave06a at dunfield.com> wrote:
Just checked the manual for my 164sx, and yes, it does need the fan tach.
I'll scan the manual tomorrow and make it available.
Simon
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philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is
the utility of the final product."
Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh
On 4/26/06,
Dave Dunfield <dave06a at dunfield.com> wrote:
Ok - this is interesting ....
This machine is missing the CPU fan - I haven't worried about it yet, because
the large heat-sink is there, and my testing has not been for long enough durations
for it to get more than slightly warm ... does the board monitor the fan tach. and
shut down if it's does not see a pulse train? Looks like this machine is completely dead - I
can't get any activity from
the video or serial ports - no beeps either.
Make sure the CPU fan is spinning. Stopping the CPU fan on my 164sx
stops the machine dead. Caused a bit if head scratching until I
noticed one of the cables rubbing against the fan.
8:08 p.m.
Just checked the manual for my 164sx, and yes, it does
need the fan tach.
I'll scan the manual tomorrow and make it available.
Indeed the fan was the problem - connected a fan, and it immediately gave
some beeps - fooled with the jumpers a bit and up came the POST on
video - seems to be working.
The fellow I got it from thought he had a PDF manual for the board, but
forgot to bring it - I'll press him for it.
Now - if I could get VMS running on this, that would be fun!
Dave
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11:18 p.m.
Dave Dunfield wrote:
Now - if I could get VMS running on this, that would be fun!
Dave
Dave,
We ran Dec Unix on it, and up to a 500 mhz version that our company
prefered. The network and video cards that were supported by the unix
were rare, may not be now, but with the right SCSI controller, they
were nice machines, though as someone said slow. I dont think our
application ever used over 3% of the cpu though, and the 500mhz
was mainly nice because it restored faster, and made administration
easier. the app was mostly idling to do the task it had to do.
Jim
27 Apr
27 Apr
7:41 a.m.
There are three bar-coded stickers visible on the top of the board (I haven't
taken the board out to look on the bottom yet).
Two are on yellow backgrounds, and are located up near the power-supply:
54-25002-01 B03
and
KA724WZJHL
The remaining one is at the bottom, near the back of the ISA slots:
70-32811-C0
When powered up, the system reads:
(First a graphicsl screen appears showing a drawing of a PC with
the logo "Alpha Powered")
Then, a "windowey" set of screens which read:
AlphaBIOS 5.60-3
AlphaPC 164LX
Processor: Digital ALPHA 21164, 466Mhz
This is visible while it tests the memory (256M), and then it
goes to a menu from which I can go into various configuration
screens.
Can anyone tell me more information about this system.
The is evidence of SCSI, as there is a SCSI CD-drive, and
some of the configuration options reference SCSI, however
there is no SCSI controller - what type of controller do I need
for it?
Regards,
Dave
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8:08 a.m.
From what I remember the LX164 was supposed to be a
screamin' NT
workstation for CAD style apps.
From the OpenVMS FAQ:
" OpenVMS Alpha is not supported on the AlphaPC 164LX and
164SX series, though there are folks that have gotten
certain of the LX series to load SRM and bootstrap
OpenVMS. (The Aspen Durango II variant, specifically.)
One problem has been generally reported: ATA (IDE)
bootstraps will fail; SCSI storage and a SCSI CD-ROM
device is required."
Firmware:
http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readmes/alphapc164lx.html
For SCSI cards I'd go for either the KZPAA-AA (8-bit narrow) or KZPBA-CA
(Ultra2 LVD)
I'm sure there'll be more info along soon :o)
A
On Thu, April 27, 2006 3:41 pm, Dave Dunfield said:
There are three bar-coded stickers visible on the top
of the board (I
haven't
taken the board out to look on the bottom yet).
Two are on yellow backgrounds, and are located up near the power-supply:
54-25002-01 B03
and
KA724WZJHL
The remaining one is at the bottom, near the back of the ISA slots:
70-32811-C0
When powered up, the system reads:
(First a graphicsl screen appears showing a drawing of a PC with
the logo "Alpha Powered")
Then, a "windowey" set of screens which read:
AlphaBIOS 5.60-3
AlphaPC 164LX
Processor: Digital ALPHA 21164, 466Mhz
This is visible while it tests the memory (256M), and then it
goes to a menu from which I can go into various configuration
screens.
Can anyone tell me more information about this system.
The is evidence of SCSI, as there is a SCSI CD-drive, and
some of the configuration options reference SCSI, however
there is no SCSI controller - what type of controller do I need
for it?
Regards,
Dave
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2:07 p.m.
Witchy wrote:
Well, be that as it may, I've installed and run VMS v7.2 on my 164LX.
You need recent SMS, supported SCSI (or a QLogic 1040) and a supported
video card.
I've never run NT on mine. Linux does pretty well; NetBSD and
FreeBSD run better.
Doc
From what I
remember the LX164 was supposed to be a screamin' NT
workstation for CAD style
apps.
From the OpenVMS FAQ:
" OpenVMS Alpha is not supported on the AlphaPC 164LX and
164SX series, though there are folks that have gotten
certain of the LX series to load SRM and bootstrap
OpenVMS. (The Aspen Durango II variant, specifically.)
One problem has been generally reported: ATA (IDE)
bootstraps will fail; SCSI storage and a SCSI CD-ROM
device is required."
2:41 p.m.
On 27/4/06 22:07, "Doc Shipley" <doc at mdrconsult.com> wrote:
Witchy wrote:
Well, be that as it may, I've installed and run VMS v7.2 on my 164LX.
You need recent SMS, supported SCSI (or a QLogic 1040) and a supported
video card.
I've never run NT on mine. Linux does pretty well; NetBSD and
FreeBSD run better.
Similarly VMS isn't supported on the Multia but it works. Talking about IDE
reminds me I'm picking up a DS10 and AlphaServer 800 tomorrow; I had to be
re-educated on the Alphas recently (hoops HP require us to jump through at
work) and I'd forgotten that the DS10 was designed to be an IDE system from
the ground up. Seems odd that every single DS10 I worked on back in the day
and every single DS10 that comes through our workshop now has a KZPBA SCSI
adapter in the 32-bit slot and SCSI drives.....IDE only does the CD.
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collection?
From what
I remember the LX164 was supposed to be a screamin' NT
workstation for CAD
style apps.
From the OpenVMS FAQ:
" OpenVMS Alpha is not supported on the AlphaPC 164LX and
164SX series, though there are folks that have gotten
certain of the LX series to load SRM and bootstrap
OpenVMS. (The Aspen Durango II variant, specifically.)
One problem has been generally reported: ATA (IDE)
bootstraps will fail; SCSI storage and a SCSI CD-ROM
device is required."
9:11 p.m.
Continuing to play with the Alpha system (I've never used an Alpha
before - so please excuse my ignorance of some of the stuff I'm
not aware of is basic).
Not having a suitable SCSI controller, I installed an IDE hard drive
and CD-ROM.
The system recognizes both - it lets me partition and format the
hard drive from within the AlphaBIOS menus.
I have a WinNT4 CD with the Alpha release on it, and the "install
Windows NT" option does launch the setup from the CD OK.
Shortly into the setup, it asks what kind of system I have, none
of the options are 164LX, and I don't have a "disk provided by
the manufacturer" for the "Other" option. I tried the various
options provided, hoping one might be close enough to "limp
along", however in all cases it crashes a few steps later (while
"Loading CD-ROM filesystem") - in one case it gets a STOP/
Panic event.
Are the files needed for the 164LX available on the net somewhere?
So far no-one has commented on the "PROTO" designation that is
printed on the CPU - I also noticed that there is a sticker on the back
of the system which reads "Digital Semiconductor Alpha Prototype".
Could the CPU be a prototype of some kind (as far as I can tell, the
board is as someone put it "bog standard").
I did find a 164LX Mainboard Technical manual which seems to exactly
match this board - Looking at the jumper configuration, I realized that
the system when I received it had been configured for 600Mhz - so I
reset the clock speed, and it runs fine, reporting 600Mhz in the startup
screen. Perhaps this is a very early version of the 600Mhz CPU?
Turns out the only jumper that was "wrong" when I got it was a jumper
which is defined as "Select failsafe boot mode" - elsewhere in the
manual it mentions this jumper as "diagnostic monitor".
When the jumper is ON (not the standard position), the board beeps
1, 2, 3 ( beep pause beep beep pause beep beep beep ) - When I
took it off, the board boots up normally ( AlphaBIOS ). - Any info on
the "failsave boot" or "diagnostic monitor" functions available? (the
technical manual just refers you to some WinNT documentation).
Regards,
Dave
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9:19 p.m.
Dave Dunfield wrote:
Continuing to play with the Alpha system (I've
never used an Alpha
before - so please excuse my ignorance of some of the stuff I'm
not aware of is basic).
Shortly into the setup, it asks what kind of system I
have, none
of the options are 164LX, and I don't have a "disk provided by
the manufacturer" for the "Other" option. I tried the various
options provided, hoping one might be close enough to "limp
along", however in all cases it crashes a few steps later (while
"Loading CD-ROM filesystem") - in one case it gets a STOP/
Panic event.
Are the files needed for the 164LX available on the net somewhere?
Yup. :)
http://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/info/semiconductor/alpha/dsc-software-al…
Firmware updates, motherboard fab docs including parts list and
Gerber files, NT drivers, and NT4/NT3.51 HAL sets.
I have later firmware and HALs than that page lists, though:
http://www.docsbox.net/abLXSXv570.zip
contains both AlphaBIOS and SRM roms.
and
http://www.docsbox.net/HALrevG.zip
Let me know when you have them downloaded. I'm sure they're still
encumbered....
By the way, that box is half-flash firmware. That is, you can run
AlphaBIOS or SRM, but not both. You have to reflash the firmware or
load it from floppy to switch.
Turns out the only jumper that was "wrong"
when I got it was a jumper
which is defined as "Select failsafe boot mode" - elsewhere in the
manual it mentions this jumper as "diagnostic monitor".
When the jumper is ON (not the standard position), the board beeps
1, 2, 3 ( beep pause beep beep pause beep beep beep ) - When I
took it off, the board boots up normally ( AlphaBIOS ). - Any info on
the "failsave boot" or "diagnostic monitor" functions available?
(the
technical manual just refers you to some WinNT documentation).
I may be mistaken, but ISTR that the failsafe jumper forces the
firmware load from floppy. That's from really hazy memory, though.
Doc
28 Apr
28 Apr
12:29 a.m.
On 28/4/06 05:19, "Doc Shipley" <doc at mdrconsult.com> wrote:
Correct, it's a last resort in the event of a corrupt SROM. It boots to a
minimal console that's enough to let you reload the relevant console from
CD.
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took it off,
the board boots up normally ( AlphaBIOS ). - Any info on
the "failsave boot" or "diagnostic monitor" functions available?
(the
technical manual just refers you to some WinNT documentation).
I may be mistaken, but ISTR that the failsafe jumper forces the
firmware load from floppy. That's from really hazy memory, though.
27 Apr
27 Apr
8:17 a.m.
All,
On 4/27/06, Dave Dunfield <dave06a at dunfield.com> wrote:
[...]
When powered up, the system reads:
(First a graphicsl screen appears showing a drawing of a PC with
the logo "Alpha Powered")
Then, a "windowey" set of screens which read:
AlphaBIOS 5.60-3
AlphaPC 164LX
Processor: Digital ALPHA 21164, 466Mhz
This is visible while it tests the memory (256M), and then it
goes to a menu from which I can go into various configuration
screens.
It appears to be a 164LX, very similar to the 164SX that I have. AFAIK
these systems were designed to run Windows NT.
Can anyone tell me more information about this
system.
The is evidence of SCSI, as there is a SCSI CD-drive, and
some of the configuration options reference SCSI, however
there is no SCSI controller - what type of controller do I need
for it?
Depending on the firmware, the EIDE ports are mapped as SCSI devices
for some tasks, but not for others. I think I can do a sho dev in SRM
and it will list all the SCSI and EIDE devices, with similar
numbering. I seem to recall some problems booting with from an ATAPI
CDROM but it was over 4 years ago and I don't recall the exact
details.
I have a no name PCI SCSI card with a NCR chipset. I'll be able to
give you more details when I get home and am in front of my machine.
AlphaBIOS can only be used with Linux and Windows NT. I seem to recall
that booting any of the BSDs, Tru64/DU/OSF1 or VMS in only possible
with the SRM firmware. I *should* have the SRM firmware for this
machine tucked away somewhere if you want to use anything other than
NT or Linux with this machine.
With the right ethernet card, the machine will boot via MOP or a
combination of IP protocols.
Aside, a good quality scan (600dpi) of the manual for the 164SX looks
like being in the 55MB range, encoded as a PDF. I am using the
combined scanner/photocopier/printer at work that conviently knows how
to create PDFs on the fly.
Simon
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"Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to
philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is
the utility of the final product."
Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh
3:25 p.m.
All,
On 4/27/06, Simon Fryer <fryers at gmail.com> wrote:
[chomp]
I have a no name PCI SCSI card with a NCR chipset.
I'll be able to
give you more details when I get home and am in front of my machine.
A quick transcription from /var/adm/messages in Tru64 V5.1 running on my 164SX;
vmunix: psiop_pci_initialize: Warning - unsupported 53c875 scsi chip
vmunix: Loading SIOP: script c0004000, reg 84072000, data 4133c000
vmunix: scsi2 at psiop0 slot 0 rad 0
Simon
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"Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to
philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is
the utility of the final product."
Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh
9:54 a.m.
Dave Dunfield wrote:
Two are on yellow backgrounds, and are located up near
the
power-supply:
54-25002-01 B03
That's a 164LX
When powered up, the system reads:
AlphaBIOS 5.60-3
AlphaPC 164LX
Processor: Digital ALPHA 21164, 466Mhz
Definitely a 164LX then :-)
http://vt100.net/manx has a pointer to the 164LX tech docs (and others)
on the old digital ftp site. I suspect that you will not be able to
download it from there but "164lx technical manual" into google suggests
a few alternatives.
If all else fails I can dig up my copy (always assuming I kept a local
one rather than relying on DEC to always be there :-))
Antonio
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10:44 a.m.
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:41:25 -0500
"Dave Dunfield" <dave06a at dunfield.com> wrote:
AlphaBIOS 5.60-3
AlphaPC 164LX
Processor: Digital ALPHA 21164, 466Mhz
Well, this is a 164LX board obviously. Feed
google with "164LX Alpha"
and you will see...
Can anyone tell me more information about this system.
Google... Here is an overview:
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/alpha/models.html#eb164-family
The is evidence of SCSI, as there is a SCSI CD-drive,
and
some of the configuration options reference SCSI, however
there is no SCSI controller - what type of controller do I need
for it?
Any NCR / Symbios SCSI adapter of 53C8xx vintage should do. For network
try to get a DEC DE500. An other DEC Tulip based card (DECchip
21[01]4[012]) may do also.
Note that you will need SRM firmware for anything other then WindowsNT
or Linux. Some machines have an option in the AlphaBIOS to switch to
"UNIX mode". Other machines need a flash update or dirty tricks.
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
11:53 a.m.
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:57:11 -0400
Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
I've had success in the past with QLogic QLA-10x0
cards on Alpha
systems too.
Ahh, yes. Forgot to mention QLogic. Actually I pulled an ISP1040 out
of
an Alpha PWS500au to put it into my Octane, as IRIX supports the
ISP1040 out of the box.
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
24 Apr
24 Apr
8:40 p.m.
At 11:15 PM 4/24/2006, Dave Dunfield wrote:
(It occurs to me that if the video card were not the
correct one, the Alpha
obviously would not know how to run the x86 BIOS on a PC card and it
might either crash (if it tried to execute it),
I have this odd memory of Alphas (and MIPS?) having x86 emulators
in order to talk to the video ROMs.
- John
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