8 Dec
2015
8 Dec
'15
3:24 p.m.
This is a laughable ask, I realize that- but I'd really like to find a PERQ.
Anywhere in the US and Canada is fair game. I am prepared to work on one in
any condition, and am okay with any model.
I'm definitely not asking for a handout and would like to negotiate a
reasonable price. (I am aware of the rarity!)
Please contact me off-list if this is a possibility.
For reference, I am located in Seattle, WA.
Cheers,
- Ian
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Ian Finder
(206) 395-MIPS
ian.finder at gmail.com
8 Dec
8 Dec
3:33 p.m.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com> wrote:
This is a laughable ask, I realize that- but I'd
really like to find a
PERQ.
Anywhere in the US and Canada is fair game. I am prepared to work on one in
any condition, and am okay with any model.
I'm definitely not asking for a handout and would like to negotiate a
reasonable price. (I am aware of the rarity!)
Please contact me off-list if this is a possibility.
For reference, I am located in Seattle, WA.
Cheers,
- Ian
--
Ian Finder
(206) 395-MIPS
ian.finder at gmail.com
I rescued one for VCFederation museum two years ago.
http://vintagecomputer.net/perq/
I was just looking at it this weekend. It needs a keyboard and mouse I
believe. I remember there was a guy in Texas who had a few, never heard
the full story though.
Bill
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Bill
4:25 p.m.
I have a PERQ-1 & -2, both with keyboards, mice, manuals, and a bunch of
software on floppy disk.
I haven't worked on them in... *well* over ten years. But they have bubbled
near the top of the 'soon, really this time!' pile, and I might consider
parting with one.
Let me chew it over.
Mike
On Dec 9, 2015 12:33 PM, "william degnan" <billdegnan at gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Ian Finder
<ian.finder at gmail.com> wrote:
This is a laughable ask, I realize that- but
I'd really like to find a
PERQ.
Anywhere in the US and Canada is fair game. I am prepared to work on one
in
any condition, and am okay with any model.
I'm definitely not asking for a handout and would like to negotiate a
reasonable price. (I am aware of the rarity!)
Please contact me off-list if this is a possibility.
For reference, I am located in Seattle, WA.
Cheers,
- Ian
--
Ian Finder
(206) 395-MIPS
ian.finder at gmail.com
I rescued one for VCFederation museum two years ago.
http://vintagecomputer.net/perq/
I was just looking at it this weekend. It needs a keyboard and mouse I
believe. I remember there was a guy in Texas who had a few, never heard
the full story though.
Bill
--
Bill
9 Dec
9 Dec
7:54 a.m.
I rescued one for VCFederation museum two years ago.
http://vintagecomputer.net/perq/
I was just looking at it this weekend. It needs a keyboard and mouse I
believe. I remember there was a guy in Texas who had a few, never heard
the full story though.
That's a PERQ 1 (or 1a, the difference is in the CPU board), The keyboard and
pointing
device for a PERQ2 series machine are very different.
The PERQ1 uses a standard Summagraphics Bit Pad 1 as the 'mouse'. It has to be
the
GPIB version, and connects to the GPIB port on the PERQ. There was going to be a
special mouse known as the 'Kriz tablet' but AFAIK it never existed.
The keyboard is an 8 bit parallel interface with strobe. IIRC it's essentially the
ASCII
code on the bottom 7 bits and the top bit is the ctrl key. Also in the keyboard are the
reset button (which IIRC just grounds a line on the connector) and the DDS (diagnostic
display) which is a 3 digit decimal counter cleared by the reset button and incremented
by a signal from the processor, The machine will run without a DDS, but it's a lot
harder
to figure out why it doesn't boot.
Basically what I am saying is that while it is nice to have the right parts, there are
going
to be workarounds if you can't get them
-tony
Bill
--
Bill
8:21 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 10:54 AM, tony duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Tony - thanks I passed the info along to our club.
--
Bill
I rescued one for VCFederation museum two years ago.
http://vintagecomputer.net/perq/
I was just looking at it this weekend. It needs a keyboard and mouse I
believe. I remember there was a guy in Texas who had a few, never heard
the full story though.
That's a PERQ 1 (or 1a, the difference is in the CPU board), The keyboard
and pointing
device for a PERQ2 series machine are very different.
The PERQ1 uses a standard Summagraphics Bit Pad 1 as the 'mouse'. It has
to be the
GPIB version, and connects to the GPIB port on the PERQ. There was going
to be a
special mouse known as the 'Kriz tablet' but AFAIK it never existed.
The keyboard is an 8 bit parallel interface with strobe. IIRC it's
essentially the ASCII
code on the bottom 7 bits and the top bit is the ctrl key. Also in the
keyboard are the
reset button (which IIRC just grounds a line on the connector) and the DDS
(diagnostic
display) which is a 3 digit decimal counter cleared by the reset button
and incremented
by a signal from the processor, The machine will run without a DDS, but
it's a lot harder
to figure out why it doesn't boot.
Basically what I am saying is that while it is nice to have the right
parts, there are going
to be workarounds if you can't get them
-tony
8:20 a.m.
Tony - thanks I passed the info along to our club.
Some years ago I made some notes on the insides of my PERQ1 keyboard. Hopefully
they will surface again when I get round to unpacking the rest of my books (after the
house move..). If not then I can probably work it all out again, I do certainly have the
PERQ1 keyboard here.
-tony
8:28 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 11:20 AM, tony duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I found the thing buried under a pile (huge) of surplus military phones,
electronics, terminals, and so on. I looked everywhere for the keyboard
but could not find it. May have been crushed and discarded. Eventually
this will go into the museum display at the VCF (FKA MARCH) computer museum
in Wall, NJ.
--
Bill
Tony - thanks I passed the info along to our club.
Some years ago I made some notes on the insides of my PERQ1 keyboard.
Hopefully
they will surface again when I get round to unpacking the rest of my books
(after the
house move..). If not then I can probably work it all out again, I do
certainly have the
PERQ1 keyboard here.
-tony
7:29 a.m.
Hey William What is the name of your club I was wanting to start a club
in my area.
On 12/09/2015 11:28 AM, william degnan wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 11:20 AM, tony duell <ard at
p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I found the thing buried under a pile (huge) of surplus military phones,
electronics, terminals, and so on. I looked everywhere for the keyboard
but could not find it. May have been crushed and discarded. Eventually
this will go into the museum display at the VCF (FKA MARCH) computer museum
in Wall, NJ.
Tony -
thanks I passed the info along to our club.
Some years ago I made some notes on the
insides of my PERQ1 keyboard.
Hopefully
they will surface again when I get round to unpacking the rest of my books
(after the
house move..). If not then I can probably work it all out again, I do
certainly have the
PERQ1 keyboard here.
-tony
8:42 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Mike <tulsamike3434 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hey William What is the name of your club I was
wanting to start a club
in my area.
Mike,
Please bottom post in your replies.
vintagecomputerfederation.org is the web site of our club.
For those of you who wonder, FKA MARCH is "formerly known as MARCH"
MARCH is the short name for the Mid-Atlantic Retro Computing Hobbyists.
MARCH has been disbanded. In it's place we now have a non-profit called
the Vintage Computer Federation.
Whatever you call it, the PERQ sits quietly waiting to be restored.
b
9:12 a.m.
On 12/9/15 7:54 AM, tony duell wrote:
The
Kriz tablet definitely existed, I have half of one (it's the "mouse"
portion, it basically looks like a Hawley mouse without the ball). The
device is supported in the Z80 code, PERQ microcode and POS software.
- Josh
I rescued one
for VCFederation museum two years ago.
http://vintagecomputer.net/perq/
I was just looking at it this weekend. It needs a keyboard and mouse I
believe. I remember there was a guy in Texas who had a few, never heard
the full story though.
That's a PERQ 1 (or 1a, the difference is in the CPU
board), The keyboard and pointing
device for a PERQ2 series machine are very different.
The PERQ1 uses a standard Summagraphics Bit Pad 1 as the 'mouse'. It has to be
the
GPIB version, and connects to the GPIB port on the PERQ. There was going to be a
special mouse known as the 'Kriz tablet' but AFAIK it never existed.
9:11 a.m.
The Kriz tablet definitely existed, I have half of one
(it's the "mouse"
portion, it basically looks like a Hawley mouse without the ball). The
device is supported in the Z80 code, PERQ microcode and POS software.
Are you thinking of the PERQ 2 version that had a synchronous serial interface? That
certainly exists (in both landscape and portrait versions)?
The PERQ1 one looks odd... I seem to remember something about analogue
signals on the interface connector.
-tony
10:26 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:11 AM, tony duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
It's possible -- I don't have the "tablet" portion of it, just the
mouse.
The cable has that odd locking connector that the PERQ-1 uses, so I assumed
it was for a -1. But I may be mistaken.
At any rate, the POS D.6 code (for the PERQ-1 with associated Z80 code)
supports the device, so I assume it existed in some physical form even if
it never saw use outside of 3RCC :).
- Josh
The Kriz
tablet definitely existed, I have half of one (it's the "mouse"
portion, it basically looks like a Hawley mouse without the ball). The
device is supported in the Z80 code, PERQ microcode and POS software.
Are you thinking of the PERQ 2 version that had a synchronous serial
interface? That
certainly exists (in both landscape and portrait versions)?
The PERQ1 one looks odd... I seem to remember
something about analogue
signals on the interface connector.
-tony
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