14 Jun
2001
14 Jun
'01
11:44 a.m.
Maybe an Enigma could end up in the trash.
There are amazing thing that end up in the trash by accident, Between 1977
and 1983 when I worked at McDonnell-Douglas a cruise missile case ended up
at a high school shop class, they received the leftover wood crates. It was
locked and nobody was sure if there was a missile inside. Of course the
cases and the missiles were serial numbered. The company hadn't reported
any missing and all were accounted for. Of course nobody actually visually
counted them. Everybody believed it was a hoax until the school brought the
case to the plant and then heads rolled. Actually only an empty case. I've
heard that small military items, weapons, occasionally disappear because
they are never visually counted only accounted for in the computer.
Never blame a human blame it on the computer.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
14 Jun
14 Jun
12:29 p.m.
counted them. Everybody believed it was a hoax until
the school brought the
case to the plant and then heads rolled. Actually only an empty case. I've
heard that small military items, weapons, occasionally disappear because
they are never visually counted only accounted for in the computer.
The guy I got the F-15 from ended up with a brand new torpedo the same
way. He used to buy their shipment cases as surplus and due to a mixup at
the facility that was disposing of the containers, a full one was
loaded. The Navy gave birth to a full grown cow when they found out about
it. It had the guidance section as well as the warhead (if I recall
correctly) installed.
g.
8:40 p.m.
I guess I don't understand this.... a school ended up with an empty
case? So what? Couldn't they tell it was empty by weight?
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
McFadden, Mike wrote:
Maybe an Enigma could end up in the trash.
There are amazing thing that end up in the trash by accident, Between 1977
and 1983 when I worked at McDonnell-Douglas a cruise missile case ended up
at a high school shop class, they received the leftover wood crates. It was
locked and nobody was sure if there was a missile inside. Of course the
cases and the missiles were serial numbered. The company hadn't reported
any missing and all were accounted for. Of course nobody actually visually
counted them. Everybody believed it was a hoax until the school brought the
case to the plant and then heads rolled. Actually only an empty case. I've
heard that small military items, weapons, occasionally disappear because
they are never visually counted only accounted for in the computer.
Never blame a human blame it on the computer.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
9:56 p.m.
While we're discussing lost Cruise Missiles I'll add another true tale.
In mid '86 I was working for the contractor that developed the Tomahawk.
During a building renovation the Mexican demolition crew took a load of
demo to a scrapyard in Tijuana. In the load was one of the Williams
turbofan motors (Value? about $150k). Took industrial security almost a
week to find it. Only person diciplined was the plant protection guard
that let it out. He got three days off.
Jim
15 Jun
15 Jun
1:11 a.m.
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Jim Arnott wrote:
While we're discussing lost Cruise Missiles
I'll add another true tale.
In mid '86 I was working for the contractor that developed the Tomahawk.
During a building renovation the Mexican demolition crew took a load of
demo to a scrapyard in Tijuana. In the load was one of the Williams
turbofan motors (Value? about $150k). Took industrial security almost a
week to find it. Only person diciplined was the plant protection guard
that let it out. He got three days off.
When you figure that all it was going to end up doing was help something
kill or maim someone and be destroyed in the process then I suppose the
punishment shouldn't have been any more severe :)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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17 Jun
17 Jun
1:56 a.m.
demo to a scrapyard in Tijuana. In the load was one
of the Williams
turbofan motors (Value? about $150k). Took industrial security almost
a week to find it. Only person diciplined was the plant protection
guard that let it out. He got three days off.
Reminds me of a similar incident at a place I used to work... Not
military related though.
Back in 1990 or so the company bought a new NEC PABX. Not ready to
install it, they stored it in the warehouse on it's original pallet
pending installation.
The warehouse cleaner came along, saw a big empty looking box on a pallet
sitting next to his rubbish pallets, grabbed a forklift and dumped it into
the rubbish truck.
Worth about $70,000 and was never recovered.
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