I have the opportunity to obtain an Osbourne (no, I don't know what model, etc). What is a ballpark figure for the value of this? I don't have one and am unaware of details on them. Also, any caveats to watch for? thanks! Tarsi 210 210-------------210-------------------210 VISIT OrangeCAM! http://orangenet.dhs.org/~cam/ tarsi(a)binhost.com http://orangenet.dhs.org http://tarsi.binhost.com http://www.foreverbeyond.org 210-------------210-------------------210

In talking to Dana Trout today, got some interesting stories. For those that don't already know, the origin of the name, Pickles & Trout, came from a day when both Dana Trout and Greg Pickles were in a bank getting some travelers checks to attend an auction. The details are a bit fuzzy, but Dana was talking with someone in the bank line and his and Gregs last names came up. At the point that Pickles & Trout had exited his line and made it over to the line Greg was in, they knew they had to do something. And the result was the company name, Pickles & Trout. They had hired a guy to field phone calls, and one day Dana got asked by this new guy to talk to a very irrate customer. After taking the call, the customer thought they were being played around with and didn't like it one bit. Why? They had called Pickles & Trout for some help and got someone calling themselves Herring on the line :). It hadn't occurred to any of them when this new guy was hired, his last name would cause any type of ruckus like this. Later on while talking to this guy, he said he had cut off his beard for the interview to try and make a good impression. Since both Dana and Greg had beards, it was kind of funny!

One of the things I've noted is that the Osbourne seems to consistantly sell for a higher price than the Kaypros. I find this strange since the Kaypros were universally regarded as a much better machine and TMK not as many were produced. Possibly just a name recognition factor. ciao larry Reply to: lgwalker(a)look.ca

The only thing Osborne I still sort of want is the rest of my little notebook thing on "real microprocessors, vol III", since I never sent in for updates etc.

At 06:11 PM 11/15/2000 -0600, you wrote: Value?? Condition? Operable? Original diskettes & manual? StartPac tutorial? Accessories? Under $100 2 things to watch out for: video and keyboard cable. On all Osbornes (except maybe the Executive) a little plug is needed for the internal monitor to work properly. This black plug, about the size & shape of a finger joint, fits on an edge card connector of about 10 pairs of contacts. To use external video, need adapter with the black plug on one end and RCA jack on other. The keyboard cable issue has only with the first "edition" of Osborne-1. This "edition" has ribbon cable for the keyboard, "Osborne-1" in large black letters on the right and left sides of the case, and it has b/w internal monitor. Second "edition" has green monitor, and Executive has amber; both have coil cable for keyboard. The ribbon keyboard cable eventually cracks from fatigue rendering the keyboard (intermittently) inoperable. Edwin

Hello Tarsi On 15-Nov-00, you wrote: don't go over $20 or $30. Ozzzies only had 2 1/2 models, the Osborne 1 and the Executive. Caveats: does it have SSSD drives (80k per disk) or SSDD (160k) ? Mine happens to have the original SSSD drives. Regards -- Gary Hildebrand Box 7 West Branch, IA 52358 319-643-5952 x30 or garyhildebrand(a)kwkb.com

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Do a Dejanews search. Someones got a package that might work. If you meet the hardware requiremnets. Yes, but I don't know of any commercial ones. Also look at Process softwares TCP stacks, they might work as a proxy server for you. Most likely won't happen I'd guess. Face it the Alpha is where it's at. VAX is for legacy VMS apps that can't be VEST'd. Plus trust me there is no way Mozilla will run on a VAX, as low end Alpha's have problems running it! Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |