1 Jul
2020
1 Jul
'20
11:09 a.m.
i> From: Alan Perry <aperry at snowmoose.com>
Why would one get OS/2200 when they can get
https://www.unisys.com/offerings/clearpath-forward/clearpath-forward-produc…
?
thanks!
As an old MCP user/developer (although outside the lab), that's really
interesting to me!
Note: you have to register to get the software. That's apparently
done by clicking on "Downloads". Then you're presented with a
registration form. After submitting it, you're told you'll receive an
email.
Don't hold your breath.
It's been 20 minutes, and no email from Unisys :(
(And, no email --> no download)
Stan
1 Jul
1 Jul
11:26 a.m.
On 7/1/20 11:09 AM, Stan Sieler via cctalk wrote:
i> From: Alan Perry <aperry at
snowmoose.com>
I submitted the form last night and got the download link about 8am
Pacific time this morning. The download was 2.66G. I haven't installed
it yet.
alan
Why would one get OS/2200 when they can get
https://www.unisys.com/offerings/clearpath-forward/clearpath-forward-produc…
?
thanks!
As an old MCP user/developer (although outside the lab), that's really
interesting to me!
Note: you have to register to get the software. That's apparently
done by clicking on "Downloads". Then you're presented with a
registration form. After submitting it, you're told you'll receive an
email.
Don't hold your breath.
It's been 20 minutes, and no email from Unisys :(
(And, no email --> no download) 
12:33 p.m.
On 01/07/2020 19:26, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
I submitted the form last night and got the download link about 8am
Pacific time this morning. The download was 2.66G. I haven't installed
it yet.
alan
"The software license expires on July 31st of each calendar year and
must be renewed by re-registering with Unisys and then downloading and
installing a new package."
Maybe I'll wait a few weeks before requesting a licence?
Antonio
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8 p.m.
On 7/1/20 12:33 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
On 01/07/2020 19:26, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
Got it installed and running on a Windows 10 VM on my MacBook. Pretty
interesting, but I haven't used MCP since '89 and seldom used the ODT
(console) on A Series systems when I did, so lots of trying to recall
how to do stuff.
The disk image and machine config file are stored separately from
ClearPath MCP Express, so I should be able to just point the new package
to it when renewal time comes up.
alan
I submitted the form last night and got the download link about 8am
Pacific time this morning. The download was 2.66G. I haven't installed
it yet.
alan
"The software license expires on July 31st of each calendar year and
must be renewed by re-registering with Unisys and then downloading and
installing a new package."
Maybe I'll wait a few weeks before requesting a licence? 
2 Jul
2 Jul
1:05 p.m.
Alan,
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:00:00PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
Got it installed and running on a Windows 10 VM on my
MacBook. Pretty
interesting, but I haven't used MCP since '89 and seldom used the ODT
(console) on A Series systems when I did, so lots of trying to recall
how to do stuff.
I got it installed and running on a Windows 7 VM on my 2009 Mac last night.
I've never used MCP before, so there's been lots of reading trying to learn
how to do stuff. I didn't have much time to work with it last night, so I
haven't gotten very far yet.
Has anyone attempted to run MCP Express under Wine on Linux? I don't know
how long I'll be able to use the VM I currently have it running on. I don't
have a Windows license key for it.
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.Lassie.xyz
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
1:41 p.m.
On 7/2/20 1:05 PM, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote:
Alan,
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:00:00PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
I have never had Windows stop working despite not activating it and have
gone at least 6 months without doing so. Despite now working for MS, I
don't know the ins and outs of Windows activation. (I work on embedded
Linux there.)
I have been using those blogs to remind myself of how it all work. I
worked on products where PCs (ET2000 PC compatibles and B2x BTOS
systems) interacted with mainframes. Now the joys of block mode
terminals are coming back to me.
I did my day-to-day work with CANDE (Command AND Editor) and with MCP
Express one get to that through MARC. However, when I run the MARC
script, the Windows VM crashes.
alan
Got it installed and running on a Windows 10 VM
on my MacBook. Pretty
interesting, but I haven't used MCP since '89 and seldom used the ODT
(console) on A Series systems when I did, so lots of trying to recall
how to do stuff.
I got it installed and running on a Windows 7 VM on my 2009 Mac last night.
I've never used MCP before, so there's been lots of reading trying to learn
how to do stuff. I didn't have much time to work with it last night, so I
haven't gotten very far yet.
Has anyone attempted to run MCP Express under Wine on Linux? I don't know
how long I'll be able to use the VM I currently have it running on. I don't
have a Windows license key for it.
3 Jul
3 Jul
7:24 a.m.
Alan,
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 01:41:53PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
I have never had Windows stop working despite not
activating it and have
gone at least 6 months without doing so.
That's encouraging.
I have been using those blogs to remind myself of how
it all work.
As someone new to MCP they've been a big help. This morning I started
reading through the system operations guide, 86000387-512. Some concepts
are going to take some getting used to. MCP physical and logical files are
a bit different than AS/400 physical and logical files. Also, according to
the system operations guide, a CD-ROM is a magnetized disk. I thought all
CD-ROMs were optical disks.
I did my day-to-day work with CANDE (Command AND
Editor) and with MCP
Express one get to that through MARC. However, when I run the MARC
script, the Windows VM crashes.
This blog post:
https://Unite.org/wp/tuning-the-mcp-express-installation/
says that other terminal emulators can be used to access the communications
interfaces, including MARC and CANDE. Does anyone know how? I've tried
connecting with PuTTY to the standard telnet port and the port the included
MARC terminal shortcut uses to no avail.
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.Lassie.xyz
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
21 Jul
21 Jul
5:25 a.m.
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 01:41:53PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
I have never had Windows stop working despite not
activating it and have
gone at least 6 months without doing so. Despite now working for MS, I
don't know the ins and outs of Windows activation. (I work on embedded
Linux there.)
The Windows 7 VM I've been using to run MCP Express hasn't stopped working,
but it recently started telling me I need to register to regain full
functionality. I haven't figured out what functionality has been limited
yet. Its desktop now has a black background with "Unregistered Version" in
the lower right hand corner.
Has anyone managed to get MCP Express running with Wine on Linux? I've
heard of people getting OS/2200 Express running under Wine, but it doesn't
have the Windows services MCP Express does.
I might consider registering a copy of Windows to run under VirtualBox if
Microsoft would stop trying to make the user interface look worse with each
new version. I don't mind Windows 7, but newer versions look absolutely
horrid. Even the new Office 365 on my Windows 7 PC at work looks terrible.
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.Lassie.xyz
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
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