19 Aug
1998
19 Aug
'98
5:09 p.m.
Ok, after a few more days of scoping things out, here's the deal: I
started working for GE Capital, at Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Minnesota.
They are disposing of alot of the mac systems, and I figured that I
would be able to pull the ROM's out of the old ones that I knew were
never going to be used again, ever. (Just so you know, I would probably
lose my job due to that but it's a shame to let such things go to waste.
If someone reading this is from my new employers, I haven't done
anything!!!!!)
Anyway, one of my bosses, the asset manager, is actively trying to
dispose of pallets of stuff. So if someone out there can actually buy
quite a bit, that might be nice... apparently last year he made 300
bucks selling all systems to scrap dealers that melted it all for the
metal content. bummer.)
We have lots of old IBM mainframe systems, Quads, CRTs, etc etc. also,
a good lot of those macs were all used by the Graphic Design dept; so
they are chock full of cool stuff (tons of ram, souped up video cards,
yadda yadda.) lots of hard drives, all have token ring cards. (I
reiterate: LOTS of token ring cards. I'm swimming in them.) I currently
have a large pallet of mac 14/15 inch monitors; a pallet of IIsi, IIci,
IIcx's; Quadra 700s, Quadra 950 servers(awesome machines), PowerPC
7100/66, 7100/80's. also other random ones. also, *several* pallets of
Duo Dock 230's and 280's. tons of NEC versa V/50's and 4000c's. quite a
few 21 inch mac color monitors (definitely not for sale, unless you made
an attractive offer to my boss!)
alot of this stuff is earmarked for employee sales, but alot of it is
also headed for disposal. If anyone is truly interested, I will print
out and give serious inquiries to my boss. emailing the head of a large
national corporation won't do much, but I can give your requests to the
right person.
in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
-Eric
(PS. - I only offered to grab roms or small chip components because
they wouldn't be used where the machines were headed, and they wouldn't
be missed. I cannot personally recover systems or anything of that
nature. I am sure however that my boss would be very reasonable if you
made an offer!)
PPS- we also have several sony trinitron touch screens. anyone know of
a use for these?
19 Aug
19 Aug
5:25 p.m.
We have lots of old IBM mainframe systems,
Like what?
(PS. - I only offered to grab roms or small chip
components because
they wouldn't be used where the machines were headed, and they wouldn't
be missed.
You better be careful! When the scrap man finds out that all of the chips
that have gold (like the EPROMS and processors) are gone, he is going to
scream! The rest of the chips, boards, and drives are things that the
scrap man _does_not_ want!
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
5:43 p.m.
PPS- we also have several sony trinitron touch
screens. anyone know of
a use for these?
I might be interested but shipping would probably be prohibitive and I'm
nowhere near MN. Of course they have a use - provided there is a way to
interface them to a PC. They can replace your mouse; less precisely
but plenty good enough for pushing buttons on a GUI.
I think so far every manufacturer of touchscreens uses their own interfacing
technique; sometimes there is a box to hook up to a serial port and emulate
a mouse, sometimes the box is integrated into the monitor, or there might
be a custom ISA card. Make sure whoever you sell them to has any such
external devices.
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5:58 p.m.
I'm right here in the Twincities also and would like to purchase some of
the machines. Here's my offer to those on the list that want some of these
items in one's and two's e-mail your list and the price you want to pay for
each item and I will make them a offer for all of it. You have only pay me
the shipping cost plus the item cost. If I get it all cheap enough them I
will divide the number of units into the price I pay and charge the lower
price per unit. Say I get 100 items at $300 that means the cost per item
would be $3. I do not need it all I also just want one of each type of unit
for my collection that I do not already have. Let me know as soon as
possible before it's all gone. Thanks Eric for the tip and I will get back
to my Friday with some type of offer based me being able maybe see some of
these units.
At 09:09 PM 8/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
Ok, after a few more days of scoping things out,
here's the deal: I
started working for GE Capital, at Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Minnesota.
They are disposing of alot of the mac systems, and I figured that I
would be able to pull the ROM's out of the old ones that I knew were
never going to be used again, ever. (Just so you know, I would probably
lose my job due to that but it's a shame to let such things go to waste.
If someone reading this is from my new employers, I haven't done
anything!!!!!)
Anyway, one of my bosses, the asset manager, is actively trying to
dispose of pallets of stuff. So if someone out there can actually buy
quite a bit, that might be nice... apparently last year he made 300
bucks selling all systems to scrap dealers that melted it all for the
metal content. bummer.)
We have lots of old IBM mainframe systems, Quads, CRTs, etc etc. also,
a good lot of those macs were all used by the Graphic Design dept; so
they are chock full of cool stuff (tons of ram, souped up video cards,
yadda yadda.) lots of hard drives, all have token ring cards. (I
reiterate: LOTS of token ring cards. I'm swimming in them.) I currently
have a large pallet of mac 14/15 inch monitors; a pallet of IIsi, IIci,
IIcx's; Quadra 700s, Quadra 950 servers(awesome machines), PowerPC
7100/66, 7100/80's. also other random ones. also, *several* pallets of
Duo Dock 230's and 280's. tons of NEC versa V/50's and 4000c's. quite a
few 21 inch mac color monitors (definitely not for sale, unless you made
an attractive offer to my boss!)
alot of this stuff is earmarked for employee sales, but alot of it is
also headed for disposal. If anyone is truly interested, I will print
out and give serious inquiries to my boss. emailing the head of a large
national corporation won't do much, but I can give your requests to the
right person.
in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
-Eric
(PS. - I only offered to grab roms or small chip components because
they wouldn't be used where the machines were headed, and they wouldn't
be missed. I cannot personally recover systems or anything of that
nature. I am sure however that my boss would be very reasonable if you
made an offer!)
PPS- we also have several sony trinitron touch screens. anyone know of
a use for these?
2:36 p.m.
New subject: Another XTA choices for oddball systems.
IBM did make several drives in 2.5" that works with XTA or ATA
interface.
Listed here for 2.5"
WDA-240/280 40mb/80mb
WDA-S260 - 60mb and WDA-2120 120mb.
The XTA and ATA is selected by one pin on the 44pin interface and
it's there on the ibm website.
http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/table.htm
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
8:52 p.m.
On 19 Aug 98 at 21:58, John R. Keys Jr. wrote:
I'm right here in the Twincities also and would
like to purchase some of
the machines. Here's my offer to those on the list that want some of these
items in one's and two's e-mail your list and the price you want to pay for
each item and I will make them a offer for all of it. You have only pay me
the shipping cost plus the item cost. If I get it all cheap enough them I
will divide the number of units into the price I pay and charge the lower
price per unit. Say I get 100 items at $300 that means the cost per item
would be $3. I do not need it all I also just want one of each type of unit
for my collection that I do not already have. Let me know as soon as
possible before it's all gone. Thanks Eric for the tip and I will get back
to my Friday with some type of offer based me being able maybe see some of
these units.
I was about to suggest you be the point man. I thought you had cleaned out the
mid-west already tho. :^))
I would definitely be interested in some of this stuff but it's hard to make
any kind of an offer without having a clearer picture of what's available. If
it's not possible to catalog it first ,maybe we could do it on some sort of
investment share basis. For example say I was into it for $50-$100 main
interest a Versa and whatever else I could get of interest to me. Time is
likely of the essence on this so it would have to be organized quickly.
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
20 Aug
20 Aug
2:25 a.m.
I'm right here in the Twincities also and would like to purchase some of
the machines. Here's my offer to those on the list that want some of these
items in one's and two's e-mail your list and the price you want to pay for
each item and I will make them a offer for all of it. You have only pay me
the shipping cost plus the item cost. If I get it all cheap enough them I
will divide the number of units into the price I pay and charge the lower
price per unit. Say I get 100 items at $300 that means the cost per item
would be $3.
This makes great sense... I'd love to pick up a couple of quadras
or maybe a power mac to go with my rescued IIfx.
Bill
2:07 a.m.
I'm interested in getting either V/50 or 3 notebooks of 4000C just in
case for repairs if the price is right.
Thanks for letting us know!
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
3:41 a.m.
I'm right here in the Twincities also and would
like to purchase some of
the machines. Here's my offer to those on the list that want some of these
items in one's and two's e-mail your list and the price you want to pay for
each item and I will make them a offer for all of it. You have only pay me
the shipping cost plus the item cost. If I get it all cheap enough them I
will divide the number of units into the price I pay and charge the lower
price per unit.
John,
I'd like to get in on this two. Since my fastest Mac is already a IIfx, my
interest would be limited to a Quadra or PowerMac.
Please keep me in the loop as you lear more details...
Thanks...
<<<John>>>
19 Aug
19 Aug
7:32 p.m.
On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Poesie wrote:
alot of this stuff is earmarked for employee sales,
but alot of it is
also headed for disposal. If anyone is truly interested, I will print
out and give serious inquiries to my boss. emailing the head of a large
national corporation won't do much, but I can give your requests to the
right person.
Suggestion: to even make it remotely worth this manager's while, you're
probably going to have to offer to buy pallets of stuff. It probably
won't be worth his while to make nickel & dime sales to 20 different
people. I would suggest you offering to be the point man in this. Get a
list from all the classiccmp people who want stuff. Take it to the
manager and say you'll assemble this all on one pallet. Then hand him
cash or a check for $xx. Then turn around and re-sell it to the
interested parties. Anything else and the manager will most likely tell
you its not worth his time, and oh by the way you're fired.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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20 Aug
20 Aug
6:03 a.m.
At 09:09 PM 8/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
Anyway, one of my bosses, the asset manager, is actively trying to
dispose of pallets of stuff. So if someone out there can actually buy
quite a bit, that might be nice... apparently last year he made 300
bucks selling all systems to scrap dealers that melted it all for the
metal content. bummer.)
You have to wonder if it's more important for some people to simply
"get rid of" something, than to find it put to good use. If these
machines are functional, the companies involved could value the PR
from donating them to good causes more than the few
hundred dollars
of scrap value.
An enterprising person could estimate the potential return on
buying the palettes and reselling the parts. If these systems
are functional, I have no doubt you could set yourself up in
business, buying the machines, stripping them, learning about
reviving them, reconfiguring them, and then reselling them.
It would be a good summer job for a school kid, or even an
adult. :-)
SCSI hard drives hold their value a bit longer than other types.
RAM that still functions can be reused. Even dead RAM chips
have value - search the net, you'll find people who buy SIMMs
at discount prices, then desolder the individual chips and
reassemble working SIMMs.
John R. Keys Jr. - when are you opening a shop where we can
buy all the stuff you've hoarded?
- John
11:14 a.m.
New subject: Conner HD's stickums: portable Mac HD probs.
Dead or no spin Conners...
Anyone who thought it's bad bearing grease... not really.
Bad bearings rarely happens, did tear down those dead Conners for
failure analysis.
It's the platters and heads stuck together after heads sliding on
platter during spin up and spin down too often and for long time
wearing out the protective/lubing surface.
One word of Conner's designations on type of HD form factors: no
zeros between CP3 and the amount of formatted size is always between
2/3 height to half height, One zero between CP3 and the xxx size is
always 1" and extra 0's often signify next generations usually.
Okay, Those problem HD's you saw in Mac portable and most Mac's that
used Conner and only once with early Quantums but that is only once.
I will focus only on Conner because I know this very well.
That is from going though over 40 of them on that trusty bench in 3-5
years period.
Most died from platters/heads stickums and some died from ground up
platters especially on CP30xxx and CP300xxx and up and
to lesser degree blown logic boards. I recently rebuilt a CP30174E
after I finally found a logic board for it after 3 years of
searching. For now no more Conners ever and thankfully that
Seagate "killed" Conner. I usually don't bother the Conner hd's any
longer as they're getting OLD and spare parts I had is all gone now.
To confirm that your conner hd is stuck, turn on your portable and
give the protable a sharp turn to sudden stop parallel with table
that instant, and give once or twice after first one with turn on.
Suggest putting two layers of slippery materials on table to help the
easy sliding around.
Jason D.
PS: My friend is sending the Compaq Portable III to me
with dead Conner (hint, hint!) in it. Found it along with Deskpro
386/25 in dumper!
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.
3:52 p.m.
You will get a free pass to the museum, I started talking with the State
today to setup my non profit status and to get help from them (read money)
for the museum. John
At 10:03 AM 8/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
At 09:09 PM 8/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
Anyway, one of my bosses, the asset manager, is actively trying to
dispose of pallets of stuff. So if someone out there can actually buy
quite a bit, that might be nice... apparently last year he made 300
bucks selling all systems to scrap dealers that melted it all for the
metal content. bummer.)
You have to wonder if it's more important for some people to simply
"get rid of" something, than to find it put to good use. If these
machines are functional, the companies involved could value the PR
from donating them to good causes more than the few hundred dollars
of scrap value.
An enterprising person could estimate the potential return on
buying the palettes and reselling the parts. If these systems
are functional, I have no doubt you could set yourself up in
business, buying the machines, stripping them, learning about
reviving them, reconfiguring them, and then reselling them.
It would be a good summer job for a school kid, or even an
adult. :-)
SCSI hard drives hold their value a bit longer than other types.
RAM that still functions can be reused. Even dead RAM chips
have value - search the net, you'll find people who buy SIMMs
at discount prices, then desolder the individual chips and
reassemble working SIMMs.
John R. Keys Jr. - when are you opening a shop where we can
buy all the stuff you've hoarded?
- John
4:19 p.m.
>buying the palettes and reselling the parts. If
these systems
>are functional, I have no doubt you could set yourself up in
>business, buying the machines, stripping them, learning about
>reviving them, reconfiguring them, and then reselling them.
Like one local scapper, who has finally "wised up" and is building a
large warehouse to retail his stuff instead of leaving it out in the
dust and rain to await the mexicans with hammers.
For anybody in Phoenix, it's at 7th Ave. and Magnolia. He sells stuff
cheap so far if you can rescue it in time. We'll see if it stays that way.
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9:28 p.m.
Shawn wrote:
Like one local scapper, who has finally "wised up" and is building a
large warehouse to retail his stuff instead of leaving it out in the
dust and rain to await the mexicans with hammers.
For anybody in Phoenix, it's at 7th Ave. and Magnolia. He sells stuff
cheap so far if you can rescue it in time. We'll see if it stays that way.
What's the name of the place? I'm going to be in Phoenix next month - If I
have time I'd like to go there and poke around.
R.
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21 Aug
21 Aug
9:40 a.m.
Like one local
scapper, who has finally "wised up" and is building a
large warehouse to retail his stuff instead of leaving it out in the
dust and rain to await the mexicans with hammers.
For anybody in Phoenix, it's at 7th Ave. and Magnolia. He sells stuff
cheap so far if you can rescue it in time. We'll see if it stays that way.
What's the name of the place? I'm going to be in Phoenix next month - If I
have time I'd like to go there and poke around.
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