26 Sep
2000
26 Sep
'00
12:12 p.m.
At 07:42 PM 9/26/00 -0400, you wrote:
Ed Kirby at CPB has lots of Vaxstation 4000's with
drives, keyboards, mice
... These are 55mhz machines with 40mb ram, a drive of your choice sizewise
He is asking something like $300.00 for the whole
system as described
above.
That is a VAX 4000/60 and even on Ebay they rarely go for more than $150.
The 4000/90's go for more but they are 72Mhz machines.
--Chuck
26 Sep
26 Sep
12:59 p.m.
In <4.3.2.7.2.20000926171003.00e22100(a)208.226.86.10>10>, on 09/26/00
at 08:59 PM, Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> said:
That is a VAX 4000/60 and even on Ebay they rarely go
for more than $150.
The 4000/90's go for more but they are 72Mhz machines.
But that is only for the computer, often without mice/keyboards and
definitely without the 19" color monitor. The monitors are worth quite a
bit still today. If breaks down to something like $150 or $200 for the
machine and periperals, and $100 or $150 for the monitor. However you
break it down, $300 for a complete, tested system is a good deal.
I forgot they also have 8bit color framebuffers though with 19" color
monitors you probably guessed....
Jeff
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Jeffrey S. Worley wrote:
In
<4.3.2.7.2.20000926171003.00e22100(a)208.226.86.10>10>, on 09/26/00
at 08:59 PM, Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> said:
Actually for Fixed Frequency Sync-on-Green monitors that's high. To use the
monitor on anything other than DEC hardware you're going to need special
hardware that costs more than the monitor is worth in most cases. If the
systems had 24-Bit framebuffers then it would be a decent price.
However, they will make *very nice* VMS boxes if you still have apps that
require a VAX. Otherwise if that's you're price range you're better off
shooting for a DEC 3000 series or a lowend PCI Alpha for VMS.
Zane
That is a VAX 4000/60 and even on Ebay they rarely
go for more than $150.
The 4000/90's go for more but they are 72Mhz machines.
But that is only for the computer, often without mice/keyboards and
definitely without the 19" color monitor. The monitors are worth quite a
bit still today. If breaks down to something like $150 or $200 for the
machine and periperals, and $100 or $150 for the monitor. However you
break it down, $300 for a complete, tested system is a good deal.
I forgot they also have 8bit color framebuffers though with 19" color
monitors you probably guessed.... 
27 Sep
27 Sep
8:47 a.m.
Actually for Fixed Frequency Sync-on-Green monitors
that's high. To use the
monitor on anything other than DEC hardware you're going to need special
Anybody in SoCal that wants one, I can usually find them for about $50. I
brought home a VERY NICE Sony GDM 1601 last week that does 1280x1024
beautifully, but still left more of them behind even at great prices, as I
find few people that want them.
8:19 a.m.
On 27-Sep-2000 Mike Ford wrote:
Would something like that work on a HP Envizex X terminal. It has a d-sub
15 pin plug, but needs a sync-on-green monitor. I haven't managed to find
what resolution is needed, so I haven't hunted around yet.
-Philip
Actually for
Fixed Frequency Sync-on-Green monitors that's high. To use
the monitor on anything other than DEC hardware you're going to need
special
Anybody in SoCal that wants one, I can usually find them for about $50.
I brought home a VERY NICE Sony GDM 1601 last week that does 1280x1024
beautifully, but still left more of them behind even at great prices, as
I find few people that want them. 
9:19 a.m.
gwynp(a)artware.qc.ca wrote:
I don't have a manual with me, but my limited experience with
Sun hardware tells me that probably not; the Sony monitor likely
wants 67Hz, the Envizex probably outputs 1280x1024@72Hz. But I could
be wrong.
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Carlos Murillo-Sanchez email: cem14(a)cornell.edu
428 Phillips Hall, Electrical Engineering Department
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
Anybody in
SoCal that wants one, I can usually find them for about $50.
I brought home a VERY NICE Sony GDM 1601 last week that does 1280x1024
beautifully, but still left more of them behind even at great prices, as
I find few people that want them.
Would something like that work on a HP Envizex X terminal. It has a d-sub
15 pin plug, but needs a sync-on-green monitor. I haven't managed to find
what resolution is needed, so I haven't hunted around yet.
7:13 p.m.
gwynp(a)artware.qc.ca wrote:
I don't have a manual with me, but my limited experience with
Sun hardware tells me that probably not; the Sony monitor likely
wants 67Hz, the Envizex probably outputs 1280x1024@72Hz. But I could
be wrong.
Cabana Systems (a monitor reseller) lists it as The GDM 1601 Is Driven At:
1280 x 1024 @ 66 Hz (SUN Spec), 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz (Mac Spec). I haven't
played that much with the one I bought, but on the Solbourne it looked real
nice. The trick on the mac is if I have a compatible cable (darned monitor
sense codes are hard to fake without hardware). So far the easiest route is
to buy a PC to BNC cable and use a mac/svga adapter, but through the nose
must I pay for those cables and often adapters, and I have boxes of mac
video cables.
Anybody
in SoCal that wants one, I can usually find them for about $50.
I brought home a VERY NICE Sony GDM 1601 last week that does 1280x1024
beautifully, but still left more of them behind even at great prices, as
I find few people that want them.
Would something like that work on a HP Envizex X terminal. It has a d-sub
15 pin plug, but needs a sync-on-green monitor. I haven't managed to find
what resolution is needed, so I haven't hunted around yet.
9:49 a.m.
Anybody in
SoCal that wants one, I can usually find them for about $50.
I brought home a VERY NICE Sony GDM 1601 last week that does 1280x1024
beautifully, but still left more of them behind even at great prices, as
I find few people that want them.
Would something like that work on a HP Envizex X terminal. It has a d-sub
15 pin plug, but needs a sync-on-green monitor. I haven't managed to find
what resolution is needed, so I haven't hunted around yet.
10:14 a.m.
New subject: Sync-on-Green Monitors (was: Re: Finds at Computer Parts Barn)
Anybody in SoCal that wants one, I can usually find
them for about $50. I
brought home a VERY NICE Sony GDM 1601 last week that does 1280x1024
beautifully, but still left more of them behind even at great prices, as I
find few people that want them.
Anyone know a good source in Oregon for Sync-on-Green monitors that will
work with older DEC workstations? I'm happy to know I can use the BNC
inputs on the DEC and Viewsonic monitor I already had, the only problem
being I really need at least one more monitor, if not more.
Zane
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