22 Mar
2009
22 Mar
'09
11:51 p.m.
Hi,
Throw some ideas at me. I've got an old 4.5" B&W portable television which I
can use for something fun, such as a portable Pong game, portable TRS-80, or
whatever.
What would you like seen done with it? I'm all ears.
Alexis.
23 Mar
23 Mar
12:30 a.m.
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Alexis wrote:
Hi,
Throw some ideas at me. I've got an old 4.5" B&W portable television
which I can use for something fun, such as a portable Pong game,
portable TRS-80, or whatever.
What would you like seen done with it? I'm all ears.
I've seen some hacks for converting it to a vector monitor.
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Subject: What to use a 4.5" B&W TV for?
Hi,
Throw some ideas at me. I've got an old 4.5" B&W portable television which
I
can use for something fun, such as a portable Pong
game, portable TRS-80,
or
whatever.
What would you like seen done with it? I'm all ears.
Alexis.
4:30 a.m.
From: thrashbarg at kaput.homeunix.org
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:21:07 +1030
Subject: What to use a 4.5" B&W TV for?
Hi,
Throw some ideas at me. I've got an old 4.5" B&W portable television which
I
can use for something fun, such as a portable Pong game, portable TRS-80, or
whatever.
What would you like seen done with it? I'm all ears.
Alexis.
With an embedded CRT controller (e.g. 6845) and some memory you could build
an tiny / cool / goofy terminal ;-) You probably also need a small CPU in it.
Attach a mini keyboard, build it together in one housing, wrote some software.
AFAIK, the vt4 project from Bob Armstrong connects to a VGA monitor. Pity,
because the vt4 will also connect a PS/2 keyboard.
Maybe a vt4 plus VGA->composite conversion?
- Henk.
5:37 a.m.
On Monday 23 March 2009 22:00:51 Henk Gooijen wrote:
The issue of VGA to composite output doesn't exist. The television has one IC
(AN5151) which does all the IF demodulating and so on. It has a horizontal
sync output, which goes off to the flyback transformer and horizontal
deflection coils, and a built in vertical deflection amplifier. I could
replace the IC with a stand alone vertical generator (TDA1170) to take the
vertical sync and connect the horizontal sync source to the original
horizontal sync output.
In fact if I wanted to have a composite sync input I would have to use a
decoder.
Alexis.
From:
thrashbarg at kaput.homeunix.org
With an embedded CRT controller (e.g. 6845) and some memory you could build
an tiny / cool / goofy terminal ;-) You probably also need a small CPU in
it. Attach a mini keyboard, build it together in one housing, wrote some
software. AFAIK, the vt4 project from Bob Armstrong connects to a VGA
monitor. Pity, because the vt4 will also connect a PS/2 keyboard.
Maybe a vt4 plus VGA->composite conversion?
- Henk. 
12:32 p.m.
The issue of VGA to composite output doesn't
exist. The television has one IC
(AN5151) which does all the IF demodulating and so on. It has a horizontal
I've not looked at the data on that chip, but I would be suprised if
there wasn't some hack to feed composite video in somewhere. Maybe into
the pin where the output of the IF filter connects or something.
Of course you could make an amplitude-modulated oscillator at the IF
frequency and feed that into the input of the chip (remove the tuner),
but that seems like too much work :-)
I obulf a little TV a few years ago with the intention of adding a
composite input and having it on my workbench to test home computers with
RF output and also displaying composite video. With a 5" or so CRT it's
limited ot 40 column text but it's still useful for testing.
I didn't do the mod in the end. Mainly becuase I noticed a pair of RCA
phono sockets on the back, one for composite video in, the other for
line-level audio in. They're the sort of sockets with internal NC
switches that disconnect the output of the TV detector whrn you stick a
plug in. Not ideal, but useable.
-tony
24 Mar
24 Mar
12:44 a.m.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 05:21:07PM +1030, Alexis wrote:
Hi,
Throw some ideas at me. I've got an old 4.5" B&W portable television which I
can use for something fun, such as a portable Pong game, portable TRS-80, or
whatever.
What would you like seen done with it? I'm all ears.
Alexis.
I saw one fellow create a one inch terminal from the crt in a camcorder.
I can't find that link now :( But I found this, it could perhaps give
you some ideas:
http://heraclion.co.uk/public/muse/clockshow.JPG
Cheers,
Pontus
12:53 a.m.
I saw one fellow create a one inch terminal from the crt in a camcorder.
I can't find that link now :( But I found this, it could perhaps give
you some ideas:
http://heraclion.co.uk/public/muse/clockshow.JPG
Heh, I did find it the second after I posted the mail:
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/tiny/tinyterminal.html
/P
28 Mar
28 Mar
9:08 p.m.
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 03:53:15 am Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Wow.
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M Dakin
I saw one
fellow create a one inch terminal from the crt in a camcorder.
I can't find that link now :( But I found this, it could perhaps give
you some ideas:
http://heraclion.co.uk/public/muse/clockshow.JPG
Heh, I did find it the second after I posted the mail:
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/tiny/tinyterminal.html
/P 
30 Mar
30 Mar
6:43 p.m.
On 28 Mar 2009 at 22:13, bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca wrote:
Umm I guess TV watching is not a option anymore!
Other than the CRT is there any thing left to use?
So was there any consensus on the best application?
In a way, I'm sort of in the same boat. I've got a nice old
Emerson "portable" 5 inch color TV here that also has an AM/FM
broadcast receiver built in. Takes a sealed lead-acid 12v battery
pack. TV tuning is continuous over 3 bands.
After the switch to DTV, it'll be good for a radio only. I've
thought about using it for a mini CGA-type display, but that seems a
little ridiculous, considering the size of the whole luggable thing.
Cheers,
Chuck
28 Apr
28 Apr
5:06 p.m.
Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
That viewfinder is taken from a semiprofessional video camera, the JVC
KY-1900; I have one. It's a three-tube camera, a fairly decent camera,
if given enough light. It's great fun to have a camera which will make
everything it captures look as if it was made in the 1980s. There is an
undefinable characteristic about it which is instantly recognizeable.
It's way out of registration, however. If anyone on the list knows how
to set up a three-tube camera, please do contact me off-list...!
-Tore :)
I saw one
fellow create a one inch terminal from the crt in a camcorder.
I can't find that link now :( But I found this, it could perhaps give
you some ideas:
http://heraclion.co.uk/public/muse/clockshow.JPG
Heh, I did find it the second after I posted the mail:
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/tiny/tinyterminal.html
28 Mar
28 Mar
9:04 p.m.
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 03:44:15 am Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 05:21:07PM +1030, Alexis
wrote:
Hm. I have a defunct camcorder I was given a while back, that's an
interesting idea, maybe I can do something with it...
If you happen to come across that link again I'd be interested.
Hi,
Throw some ideas at me. I've got an old 4.5" B&W portable television
which I can use for something fun, such as a portable Pong game, portable
TRS-80, or whatever.
What would you like seen done with it? I'm all ears.
Alexis.
I saw one fellow create a one inch terminal from the crt in a camcorder. I can't find that link now :( But I found this, it
could perhaps give
you some ideas:
http://heraclion.co.uk/public/muse/clockshow.JPG
Heh.
--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
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