-----Original Message----- From: R. D. Davis &lt;rdd(a)smart.net&gt; To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org &lt;classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Date: Thursday, May 25, 2000 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? [Was: Re:Notes on repairing the Apple Lisa power supply] <snip> I'll concede this point if you're moving it across the country, where careless shippers can bang it around and jar something loose. But when moving it across the room from one system to another, I'd say the chances of a catastrophic failure are small. You're missing the points I was trying to make. Firstly, Lisas are relatively common; thousands were built and thousands survive. It's not like we were talking about, say, an Apple I, where only 600-odd were made, and only a couple of hundred survive. The stakes in using slightly risky trouble-shooting techniques to fix a Lisa are low. Secondly, I care a lot about whether old computers work. Most of the 60+ systems in my collection work, and I'm always trying to find parts and information to fix the ones that don't. But I accept the reality that sometimes old computers die, and get used as donors to fix others. And I was trying to point out that since Lisa's fetch very high prices these days, Joe could even recover some of his investment even in the worst case scenario. The idea of accidentally blowing up a Lisa seems to bother you a lot. If you want to save every single remaining classic computer that exists, you're going to need a bigger apartment / house / warehouse / city to live in, because you're going to need a _lot_ of room. Finally, I think you need to remember that if you've never met someone, and know nothing about them, it's rude to make assumptions about or disparage their intelligence, character, or attitudes. Even in e-mail. And that's my final word on the matter Mark.