26 Jul
2001
26 Jul
'01
6:11 p.m.
just how much has been lost to time in the onslaught
of Microsoft and Unix
Lots... What do you think about a UNIX-AOS/VS-VMS-MPE-Guardian hybrid? 
27 Jul
27 Jul
4:08 a.m.
Take a look at http://www.adaos.org/ for something
different. Of course
you'd better like Ada, and it's only in the design stages as far as I can
I'm just reading through this thread. How about CLOS?
"Common Lisp Operating System" IIRC. A topic in 1989 or so.
P.S. <rave> The error messaging for the DEC Vax Ada compiler
was simply the best designed and constructed compiler software
I've ever seen. It was a complex language and DEC knew it Well.
Errors resulted in an opportunity for (the compiler) to re-train you
on the finer points of the language. Too bad the Reaganomics
(read: DOD) revolution didn't last.</rave>
John A.
28 Jul
28 Jul
6:19 a.m.
John Allain skrev:
>Take a look at http://www.adaos.org/ for something
different. Of course
>you'd better like Ada, and it's only in the design stages as far as I can
I'm just reading through this thread. How about
CLOS?
"Common Lisp Operating System" IIRC. A topic in 1989 or so.
And while we're at it, there's an Oberon OS distribution for just about every
conveivable platform.
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
6:27 p.m.
>Take a look
at http://www.adaos.org/ for something different. Of course
>you'd better like Ada, and it's only in the design stages as far as I can
I'm just reading through this thread. How
about CLOS?
"Common Lisp Operating System" IIRC. A topic in 1989 or so.
And while we're at it, there's an Oberon OS distribution for just about
>every conveivable platform.
29 Jul
29 Jul
5:11 p.m.
Zane H. Healy skrev:
>And while we're at it, there's an Oberon OS
distribution for just about
>>every conveivable platform.
How complete are the Oberon distro's though.
Something I read recently led
me to believe that you need to buy some high priced addon to get everything.
I've only played withit ever so briefly, can't tell.
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
8:23 p.m.
On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 08:27:46PM -0700, Zane H. Healy wrote:
led
And while
we're at it, there's an Oberon OS distribution for just about
>every conveivable platform.
How complete are the Oberon distro's though. Something I read recently me to believe that you need to buy some high priced
addon to get
everything.
Oberon is a family of languages, compilers, and OSs. It started out at the
ETH in Zurich, Switzerland, as one compiler, language, and OS, running on
one workstation (the Ceres, developed at the ETH and using NS320xx CPUs).
Even before it left Zurich it began to diverge. The Ceres became the
Ceres-2 and then the Ceres-3. People did all kinds of research projects,
new compilers, ports to off-the-shelf hardware, etc. In other words, IMHO
it was anarchy and no one was keeping track of all the changes!
Versions 1 and 2 of the system ran on the Ceres (and possibly on a few other
platforms). Version 3 added a new GUI (called Gadgets) and changed its name
to "System 3". Version 4 ignored Gadgets but made some other changes.
System 3 and V4 are both in use today. There are also some commercial
offshoots (Component Pascal, BlackBox Oberon, etc.)
If you want an _environment_ that runs on top of a commercial OS, you have
many choices:
- MacOS, Linux, Windows, UNIX workstations
- 680x0, PowerPC, x86, etc.
- System 3 or Version 4 (maybe Version 2 on the workstations)
- generally, full source code available
If you want a true _operating system_, you have only one choice AFAIK:
- Native Oberon (maintained by ETH Zurich)
- x86
- System 3
- most of the source code available
See
http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~guy/Oberon.html
http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Programming_Languages/Oberon/
news:comp.lang.oberon
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