15 Nov
2000
15 Nov
'00
3:52 a.m.
Hello, all:
Yesterday, I received my first modern Mac, a IIci. It comes with 8mb
of RAM an Apple TokenRing card and the Workstation Display card (Apple#
630-4179). The monitor is the 12" hi-rez monitor. It runs System 7.0.1. I
have a few random questions...
The workstation display card has a 13W3 connector on it. I
understand that if you use an external display adapter, you can reclaim some
system RAM by disabling the built-in video. Is this true? If so, How can I
connect the 13W3 to the Hi-Rez monitor which has a DB15 connector? I looked
in some catalogs, but there doesn't seem to be an adapter made for this.
The TokenRing card is useless to me, so it's up for trade. I
installed an Asante ethernet card, but I still have to install the driver
for the card, which I downloaded to my PC. I'm going to use TransMac or
workalike to transfer to 1.4m diskette.
What is the best internet browser for this configuration? I have a
cable modem connection, so dial-up is no issue.
Like I said, it has 8mb of RAM. I have a few random 30-pin PC SIMMs
laying around. Can I typically use these? What should I watch for?
The ci also has an X-eyes-like application that shows-up on the menu
bar. I looked in the usual places for where this could be installed, but I
can't seem to find the file. There's also no configuration menu to disable
it. If I can't find it, no big deal, but I'd like to disable it if I can.
Again, the token ring card is up for trade. If anyone's interested,
contact me off-line. Thanks again.
Rich
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Richard A. Cini, Jr.
Congress Financial Corporation
1133 Avenue of the Americas
30th Floor
New York, NY 10036
(212) 545-4402
(212) 840-6259 (facsimile)
15 Nov
15 Nov
4:40 a.m.
In <497A9E0467D2D2119B760090271EB8E53E3438@MAIL10>, on 11/15/00
at 10:40 AM, "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> said:
What is the best internet browser for this
configuration? I have a cable
modem connection, so dial-up is no issue.
Netscape should run just fine.
Like I said, it has 8mb of RAM. I have a few random
30-pin PC SIMMs
laying around. Can I typically use these? What should I watch for?
I think you need true-parity simms for that.
The ci also has an X-eyes-like application that
shows-up on the menu
bar. I looked in the usual places for where this could be installed, but
I can't seem to find the file. There's also no configuration menu to
disable it. If I can't find it, no big deal, but I'd like to disable it
if I can.
Again, the token ring card is up for trade. If
anyone's interested,
contact me off-line. Thanks again.
Rich
==========================
Richard A. Cini, Jr.
Congress Financial Corporation
1133 Avenue of the Americas
30th Floor
New York, NY 10036
(212) 545-4402
(212) 840-6259 (facsimile)
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30 Greenwood Rd.
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5:22 a.m.
New subject: OT? HP Scanjet IIC
This weekend I picked up an HP Scanjet IIc scsi scanner. It appears to
work but I haven't installed it on anything as yet.
Research on the web reveals this scanner to be one marketed solely for
Macintosh computers. Another, the IIcx was marketed for PC's. Will the HP
software for the IIcx work with the IIc?
I run OS/2 on my PC, have a Vaxstation, and a Sparcstation. One of these
three ought to run the scanner no?
Thanks,
Jeff
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President
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30 Greenwood Rd.
Asheville, NC 28803
828-277-5959
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THETechnoid(a)home.com
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5:55 a.m.
New subject: OT? HP Scanjet IIC
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:22:38AM -0500, THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
This weekend I picked up an HP Scanjet IIc scsi
scanner. It appears to
work but I haven't installed it on anything as yet.
Research on the web reveals this scanner to be one marketed solely for
Macintosh computers. Another, the IIcx was marketed for PC's. Will the HP
software for the IIcx work with the IIc?
I thought the IIc just had lower-end specs (like lower resolution,
smaller scan area, or something like that). If it's SCSI then there
is probably no harm in trying IIcx software. I think the HP scanner
protocol is somewhat similar across all their scanners.
I run OS/2 on my PC, have a Vaxstation, and a Sparcstation. One of these
three ought to run the scanner no?
Yep. SANE on the Sparc would work for sure. I imagine there should
have been an OS/2 driver too.
I have a IIcx, and use SANE on Linux. But it seems to have bad
color quality compared to when I first got it; I've been wondering
if the lamp is getting dim, and if it can be replaced. There is almost
no point in scanning color photos because they look so muddy, but it
still works well enough for black and white documents.
I also have a document feeder for a ScanJet Plus (I think); it has
a different connector than the feeder for the IIcx. I found it at
a thrift store. So if anybody here needs one it's available; and
I eventually want to get either the feeder for the IIcx or another
scanner with a document feeder. It will be a lot easier to scan
manuals and such that way. (Maybe by the time I finally find a feeder,
there will finally be decent Linux OCR software... I sure hope so.)
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6:13 a.m.
New subject: OT? HP Scanjet IIC
In <20001115095549.C27012(a)cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com>om>, on 11/15/00
at 12:13 PM, "Shawn T. Rutledge"
<rutledge(a)cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com>
said:
I think OS/2 is my best bet right now. The Sparcstation I have won't run
any version of Solaris above the 2.4 it's got on it now. This makes
getting binaries difficult.
I thought the IIc just had lower-end specs (like lower
resolution,
smaller scan area, or something like that). If it's SCSI then there is
probably no harm in trying IIcx software. I think the HP scanner
protocol is somewhat similar across all their scanners. >
> I run OS/2 on my PC, have a Vaxstation, and a Sparcstation. One of these
> three ought to run the scanner no?
Yep. SANE on the Sparc would work for sure. I imagine
there should have
been an OS/2 driver too.
There is a freeware scanning system for OS/2 in addition to some
commercial packages. I'm in the middle of making the Unix port of CDRECORD
working with my Atapi drive under Warp. Once that is done I'll get the
scanner going.
This one does legal-sized sheets which should make scanning certain docs
easier than with my wife's USB scanner.
Thanks for the info!
v/r
Jeff
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President
Complete Computer Services, Inc.
30 Greenwood Rd.
Asheville, NC 28803
828-277-5959
Visit our website at HTTP://www.Real-Techs.com
THETechnoid(a)home.com
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6:28 a.m.
New subject: OT? HP Scanjet IIC
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 12:13:23PM -0500, THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote:
I think OS/2 is my best bet right now. The
Sparcstation I have won't run
any version of Solaris above the 2.4 it's got on it now. This makes
getting binaries difficult.
Well I assumed you'd compile it.
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5:01 a.m.
Hello,
The ci also has an X-eyes-like application that
shows-up on the menu
bar. I looked in the usual places for where this could be installed, but I
can't seem to find the file. There's also no configuration menu to disable
it. If I can't find it, no big deal, but I'd like to disable it if I can.
Stuff running in the menubar is _normally_ located in either the
System/Extensions or System/Control panels folder.You can also look under
Startup Items in the Apple Menu. If you can't get rid of it, just do a clean
install - 7.0.1 is a free download from Apple.
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1:43 p.m.
Bill Layer skrev:
> The ci also has an X-eyes-like application that
shows-up on the menu
> bar. I looked in the usual places for where this could be installed, but I
> can't seem to find the file. There's also no configuration menu to disable
> it. If I can't find it, no big deal, but I'd like to disable it if I can.
Stuff running in the menubar is _normally_ located in
either the
System/Extensions or System/Control panels folder.You can also look under
Startup Items in the Apple Menu. If you can't get rid of it, just do a clean
install - 7.0.1 is a free download from Apple.
As for me, I'd like those eyes. They were often installed on Macs when I was
younger. Does anyone know where to find them?
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2:46 p.m.
Program is called "eyeballs" and lives in the extensions folder.
And yeah, Iggy, you can get it from Bill. ;o)
Jim
Iggy Drougge wrote:
Bill Layer skrev:
> The ci also has an X-eyes-like application
that shows-up on the menu
> bar. I looked in the usual places for where this could be installed, but I
> can't seem to find the file. There's also no configuration menu to disable
> it. If I can't find it, no big deal, but I'd like to disable it if I can.
Stuff running in the menubar is _normally_ located
in either the
System/Extensions or System/Control panels folder.You can also look under
Startup Items in the Apple Menu. If you can't get rid of it, just do a clean
install - 7.0.1 is a free download from Apple.
As for me, I'd like those eyes. They were often installed on Macs when I was
younger. Does anyone know where to find them?
5:46 a.m.
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 09:52:46AM -0500, Cini, Richard wrote:
The workstation display card has a 13W3 connector on
it. I
understand that if you use an external display adapter, you can reclaim some
system RAM by disabling the built-in video. Is this true? If so, How can I
Hmmm, maybe, if they used some system RAM as VRAM. I'm not sure how
to do that.
connect the 13W3 to the Hi-Rez monitor which has a
DB15 connector? I looked
in some catalogs, but there doesn't seem to be an adapter made for this.
Sure, those adapters exist; but I doubt a 12" monitor can do 1280x1024
(guessing that's what mode the card will be capable of, because 13W3 is
for Sun monitors and that's their usual resolution). I had to get
an adapter like that to use a PC monitor with a Sun. Fry's has them
but you can get much better deals on ebay. Just search for 13W3
and then read the description to see which direction it goes (because
most people want to hook a Sun monitor to a PC rather than the other
way around).
I might be interested in this video card, if you don't plan to
use it with a workstation monitor.
The TokenRing card is useless to me, so it's up for trade. I
installed an Asante ethernet card, but I still have to install the driver
for the card, which I downloaded to my PC. I'm going to use TransMac or
workalike to transfer to 1.4m diskette.
The Mac might be able to read DOS-formatted disks.
What is the best internet browser for this configuration? I have a
cable modem connection, so dial-up is no issue.
Netscape or IE will run, but be slow. My IIci has a Daystar 50MHz
030 upgrade, and it still is slow enough to be uncomfortable.
I don't know if there is a version of Opera for 68K machines; if so
you might want to try it.
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17 Nov
11 a.m.
At 09:46 AM 11/15/2000 -0700, you wrote:
Yes, the IIci uses system RAM for the built-in video. I don't think it can
be disabled, but you can set it to 1-bit color depth and the lowest
resolution monitor using the monitors control panel, which minimizes the
amount of RAM it would allocate for built-in video.
My IIci has that type of adapter, but mine is connected to the Apple
Portrait monitor (approx 600x800 pel), which I think is the only Apple
brand monitor with a 13w3. I'm not too sure what "13w3" is, but my monitor
has one gold male pin, 5 diagonal pairs female, and 2 gold male pins = 13
connections total. If my video adapter is the same as your "Workstation
Display card", then it is nothing special. My adapter is limited to 4-bit
color depth on the Portrait monitor. There are 8 empty IC sockets on the
card so I can get a maximum of 8-bit color depth (256 colors/greys) if I
had the RAM chips. I doubt this adapter has high enough frequencies to
support higher resolutions than the Portrait monitor.
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 09:52:46AM -0500, Cini, Richard
wrote:
> The workstation display card has a 13W3 connector on it. I
> understand that if you use an external display adapter, you can reclaim
some
system RAM by
disabling the built-in video. Is this true? If so, How can I
Hmmm, maybe, if they used some system RAM as VRAM. I'm not sure how
to do that. connect the 13W3 to the Hi-Rez monitor which has
a DB15 connector? I looked
in some catalogs, but there doesn't seem to be an adapter made for this.
Sure, those adapters exist; but I doubt a 12" monitor can do 1280x1024
(guessing that's what mode the card will be capable of, because 13W3 is
for Sun monitors and that's their usual resolution). I had to get
an adapter like that to use a PC monitor with a Sun. Fry's has them
but you can get much better deals on ebay. Just search for 13W3
and then read the description to see which direction it goes (because
most people want to hook a Sun monitor to a PC rather than the other
way around). _______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD
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6:08 p.m.
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 02:00:39PM -0800, Edwin P. Groot wrote:
brand monitor with a 13w3. I'm not too sure what
"13w3" is, but my monitor
13W3 is shaped like a fairly wide D-sub connector, but contains
3 little coaxial connectors plus some pins (probably 13 pins, thus
the name).
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