30 Jul
2014
30 Jul
'14
10:34 a.m.
My insatiable terminal collecting habit has cost me another couple
square feet of space. By way of a well-spotted Craigslist ad, I have
acquired an IBM 3278-5 terminal:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102190732096693814506/IBM3278Terminal
I'll need a terminal controller, so it'll be a long time before this
term sees a mainframe session again. But it does power up and I'd
like to at least test the local mode, so I'll need a keyboard, too.
A few have appeared on eBay recently and sold for much more than I
expected. Apparently there are a lot of 'boardless terminals out
there. Aside from waiting patiently for one to come along cheap, what
are my options here? The keyboard connector is a 25 pin and I believe
it uses a serial protocol. Are there other IBM keyboards that may
work? Any that can be adapted? For terminals, I have a 3178 keyboard
(p/n 6052141) with the 15-pin connector.
I know there is a 3278 -> PS/2 adapter project out there but it was
intended to go the other direction, to use the 3278 keyboard on a PC.
Perhaps it can be adapted to go my way?
-j
30 Jul
30 Jul
10:57 a.m.
Don't you dare grab any of the keyboards I'm trying to get on EBay! ;-)
They're for the 3278 terminals that I've recently acquired.
But congratulations on your acquisition!
I'm also in the process of acquiring a couple of 3179's as well.
I've also recently acquired a 3174-64R controller (so that I can talk
to the mainframe through ethernet). ;-)
TTFN - Guy
On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
My insatiable terminal collecting habit has cost me
another couple
square feet of space. By way of a well-spotted Craigslist ad, I have
acquired an IBM 3278-5 terminal:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102190732096693814506/IBM3278Terminal
I'll need a terminal controller, so it'll be a long time before this
term sees a mainframe session again. But it does power up and I'd
like to at least test the local mode, so I'll need a keyboard, too.
A few have appeared on eBay recently and sold for much more than I
expected. Apparently there are a lot of 'boardless terminals out
there. Aside from waiting patiently for one to come along cheap, what
are my options here? The keyboard connector is a 25 pin and I believe
it uses a serial protocol. Are there other IBM keyboards that may
work? Any that can be adapted? For terminals, I have a 3178 keyboard
(p/n 6052141) with the 15-pin connector.
I know there is a 3278 -> PS/2 adapter project out there but it was
intended to go the other direction, to use the 3278 keyboard on a PC.
Perhaps it can be adapted to go my way?
-j
5:45 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Guy Sotomayor <ggs at shiresoft.com> wrote:
Don't you dare grab any of the keyboards I'm
trying to get on EBay! ;-)
They're for the 3278 terminals that I've recently acquired.
No worries there - I just surprised at the demand for them. Unless
it's just you and one other bidder going back and forth on them :)
I've also recently acquired a 3174-64R controller
(so that I can talk
to the mainframe through ethernet). ;-)
Thanks, that's one clue toward the eventually full setup. From what
I've gathered, most of the terminal controllers have cards/modules
that will determine what "comes out the other end." There's no real
mainframe around here so the goal is talking to Hercules on a PC.
With that in mind, I'd guess Ethernet, Token Ring and maybe serial are
on the menu.
6:53 p.m.
On Jul 30, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Jason T <silent700 at
gmail.com> wrote:
We'll I just won. :-). I'm bidding on another that has a cut cable. The one I
just won
Is a data entry keyboard and I really want the other which is typewriter layout. The
plan is to initially just swap the cables (assuming I win the 2nd one). I'm hoping
it
isn't too hard to recreate the cut end given a good one.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Guy Sotomayor
<ggs at shiresoft.com> wrote:
Don't you dare grab any of the keyboards I'm trying to get on EBay! ;-)
They're for the 3278 terminals that I've recently acquired.
No worries there - I just surprised at the demand for them. Unless
it's just you and one other bidder going back and forth on them :) I've also recently acquired a 3174-64R
controller (so that I can talk
to the mainframe through ethernet). ;-)
Thanks, that's one clue toward the eventually full setup. From what
I've gathered, most of the terminal controllers have cards/modules
that will determine what "comes out the other end." There's no real
mainframe around here so the goal is talking to Hercules on a PC.
With that in mind, I'd guess Ethernet, Token Ring and maybe serial are
on the menu. 
1 Aug
1 Aug
11:06 a.m.
On 2014-07-30 9:45 PM, Jason T wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Guy Sotomayor
<ggs at shiresoft.com> wrote:
People may be buying them for parts, the key modules used in the 3278
keyboard where used in a wide variety of IBM keyboards of that vintage
and they do break, they are not as durable as the later buckling spring
design as used in PC keyboards.
Paul.
Don't you dare grab any of the keyboards
I'm trying to get on EBay! ;-)
They're for the 3278 terminals that I've recently acquired.
No worries
there - I just surprised at the demand for them. Unless
it's just you and one other bidder going back and forth on them :)
I've also recently acquired a 3174-64R
controller (so that I can talk
to the mainframe through ethernet). ;-)
Thanks, that's one clue toward the
eventually full setup. From what
I've gathered, most of the terminal controllers have cards/modules
that will determine what "comes out the other end." There's no real
mainframe around here so the goal is talking to Hercules on a PC.
With that in mind, I'd guess Ethernet, Token Ring and maybe serial are
on the menu.
9:33 p.m.
On Aug 1, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Paul Berger <phb.hfx
at gmail.com> wrote:
Not at the prices the keyboards are going for. I thought I was a bit nuts making
my high bid $300. But someone bid more than that at the last minute. :-(
Anyone know where I can find a 3278 keyboard with the typewriter layout? :-)
TTFN - Guy
On 2014-07-30 9:45 PM, Jason T wrote:
People may be buying them for parts, the key modules used in the 3278
keyboard where used in a wide variety of IBM keyboards of that vintage and they do break,
they are not as durable as the later buckling spring design as used in PC keyboards.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Guy Sotomayor
<ggs at shiresoft.com> wrote:
Don't you dare grab any of the keyboards I'm trying to get on EBay! ;-)
They're for the 3278 terminals that I've recently acquired.
No worries
there - I just surprised at the demand for them. Unless
it's just you and one other bidder going back and forth on them :)
I've also recently acquired a 3174-64R
controller (so that I can talk
to the mainframe through ethernet). ;-)
Thanks, that's one clue toward the
eventually full setup. From what
I've gathered, most of the terminal controllers have cards/modules
that will determine what "comes out the other end." There's no real
mainframe around here so the goal is talking to Hercules on a PC.
With that in mind, I'd guess Ethernet, Token Ring and maybe serial are
on the menu.
2 Aug
2 Aug
6:10 a.m.
On 2014-08-02 1:33 AM, Shiresoft wrote:
I seem to remember that the keyboard mapping is controlled by a jumper
inside, but it has been many years since I was inside one, the service
guide was a little book that fit in a pocket under the keyboard, the
problem was these where a customer setup machine, and the book and it
little holder where not installed ahead of time, so they often did not
make it onto the bottom of the keyboard. Anyway there is a pdf of the
service guide at
https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_ibm3270feSStationModels15MaintenanceI…,
changing the jumper will change the layout but of course then the
keytops will not match.
Paul.
On Aug 1, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Paul Berger
<phb.hfx at gmail.com> wrote:
Not at the prices the keyboards are going for. I thought I was a bit nuts making
my high bid $300. But someone bid more than that at the last minute. :-(
Anyone know where I can find a 3278 keyboard with the typewriter layout? :-)
TTFN - Guy On 2014-07-30 9:45 PM, Jason T wrote:
People may be buying them for parts, the key modules used in the 3278
keyboard where used in a wide variety of IBM keyboards of that vintage and they do break,
they are not as durable as the later buckling spring design as used in PC keyboards.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Guy Sotomayor
<ggs at shiresoft.com> wrote:
Don't you dare grab any of the keyboards I'm trying to get on EBay! ;-)
They're for the 3278 terminals that I've recently acquired.
No worries
there - I just surprised at the demand for them. Unless
it's just you and one other bidder going back and forth on them :)
I've also recently acquired a 3174-64R
controller (so that I can talk
to the mainframe through ethernet). ;-)
Thanks, that's one clue toward the
eventually full setup. From what
I've gathered, most of the terminal controllers have cards/modules
that will determine what "comes out the other end." There's no real
mainframe around here so the goal is talking to Hercules on a PC.
With that in mind, I'd guess Ethernet, Token Ring and maybe serial are
on the menu. 
30 Jul
30 Jul
10:58 a.m.
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From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of Jason T
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:35 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: IBM 3278 term needs keyboard
My insatiable terminal collecting habit has cost me another couple square feet of space.
By way of a well-spotted Craigslist ad, I have acquired an IBM 3278-5 terminal:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102190732096693814506/IBM3278Terminal
I'll need a terminal controller, so it'll be a long time before this term sees a
mainframe session again. But it does power up and I'd like to at least test the local
mode, so I'll need a keyboard, too.
A few have appeared on eBay recently and sold for much more than I expected. Apparently
there are a lot of 'boardless terminals out there. Aside from waiting patiently for
one to come along cheap, what are my options here? The keyboard connector is a 25 pin and
I believe it uses a serial protocol. Are there other IBM keyboards that may work? Any
that can be adapted? For terminals, I have a 3178 keyboard (p/n 6052141) with the 15-pin
connector.
I know there is a 3278 -> PS/2 adapter project out there but it was intended to go the
other direction, to use the 3278 keyboard on a PC.
Perhaps it can be adapted to go my way?
-j
Please see this posting http://deskthority.net/vendors-f52/wts-old-keyboards-t8474.html
These are in my warehouse. Please see page 8, for the list of ones that are already sold
in PDF format.
Cindy
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Jason,
if you're anywhere near Indianapolis, I have a 3278 keyboard you can
have. It would cost a fortune ship the thing as much as it weighs.
Ellis
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
My insatiable terminal collecting habit has cost me
another couple
square feet of space. By way of a well-spotted Craigslist ad, I have
acquired an IBM 3278-5 terminal:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102190732096693814506/IBM3278Terminal
I'll need a terminal controller, so it'll be a long time before this
term sees a mainframe session again. But it does power up and I'd
like to at least test the local mode, so I'll need a keyboard, too.
A few have appeared on eBay recently and sold for much more than I
expected. Apparently there are a lot of 'boardless terminals out
there. Aside from waiting patiently for one to come along cheap, what
are my options here? The keyboard connector is a 25 pin and I believe
it uses a serial protocol. Are there other IBM keyboards that may
work? Any that can be adapted? For terminals, I have a 3178 keyboard
(p/n 6052141) with the 15-pin connector.
I know there is a 3278 -> PS/2 adapter project out there but it was
intended to go the other direction, to use the 3278 keyboard on a PC.
Perhaps it can be adapted to go my way?
-j
12:16 p.m.
Jason T wrote:
My insatiable terminal collecting habit has cost me
another couple
square feet of space. By way of a well-spotted Craigslist ad, I have
acquired an IBM 3278-5 terminal:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102190732096693814506/IBM3278Terminal
I'll need a terminal controller, so it'll be a long time before this
term sees a mainframe session again. But it does power up and I'd
like to at least test the local mode, so I'll need a keyboard, too.
A few have appeared on eBay recently and sold for much more than I
expected. Apparently there are a lot of 'boardless terminals out
there. Aside from waiting patiently for one to come along cheap, what
are my options here? The keyboard connector is a 25 pin and I believe
it uses a serial protocol. Are there other IBM keyboards that may
work? Any that can be adapted? For terminals, I have a 3178 keyboard
(p/n 6052141) with the 15-pin connector.
I know there is a 3278 -> PS/2 adapter project out there but it was
intended to go the other direction, to use the 3278 keyboard on a PC.
Perhaps it can be adapted to go my way?
I'd just like to put this out there... I've been looking for a 3279 for
a long time. If anyone knows where to get one, I'd appreciate it.
Peace... Sridhar
1:26 p.m.
On Jul 30, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
Jason T wrote:
Me too. I settled on a 3278 and 3179's. ;-)
TTFN - Guy
My insatiable terminal collecting habit has cost
me another couple
square feet of space. By way of a well-spotted Craigslist ad, I have
acquired an IBM 3278-5 terminal:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102190732096693814506/IBM3278Terminal
I'll need a terminal controller, so it'll be a long time before this
term sees a mainframe session again. But it does power up and I'd
like to at least test the local mode, so I'll need a keyboard, too.
A few have appeared on eBay recently and sold for much more than I
expected. Apparently there are a lot of 'boardless terminals out
there. Aside from waiting patiently for one to come along cheap, what
are my options here? The keyboard connector is a 25 pin and I believe
it uses a serial protocol. Are there other IBM keyboards that may
work? Any that can be adapted? For terminals, I have a 3178 keyboard
(p/n 6052141) with the 15-pin connector.
I know there is a 3278 -> PS/2 adapter project out there but it was
intended to go the other direction, to use the 3278 keyboard on a PC.
Perhaps it can be adapted to go my way?
I'd just like to put this out there... I've been looking for a 3279 for a long
time. If anyone knows where to get one, I'd appreciate it.
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