Did number of parts belly up or get troublemaker big time and you had to make lot of runs to that law business? True to every situation that we saw or heard about businesses and buyers who dealt with a untruthworthy resellers / wholesalers. When that happens and that place will tell themselves "We had that so much troubles, that we'll blacklist that shop that barebones came from there and buy everywhere else." And time goes by and that shop finally finds out why you got blacklisted by rumor, from there people spreads the reputation around. Reason is that shop didn't act in time when problems crops up and move on to truthworthy sources for computer stuff. Some worst ones will "swap" one for another equally bad parts, some to be praised did something right and paid terrible price to fix the troubles. Exactly what happened with that tyan board flakiness and Asus board parallel thing from these worthless resellers. They wanted the money and gave the buyer the old bricks. Saw remarked CPUs for real with my eyes. Looks like real thing but serial #'s didn't jibe with original cpu maker's records with this actual markings. That was This story; here is it and this is true story with all identifiers mangled. A instutition with very limited $ bought a machine from a Shop A loaded with junk and old parts as new computer (major illegal). Utterly unreliable and parts is of clones of clones of mystious origin type like that russian wooden dolls. That machine came in with unhappy instutition's owner to trustworthy Shop B. Shop B smelled rat then made few calls around to major makers like AMI bios to verify key items etc and police came in to pick up that bits. Shop B footed the cost and trouble to rebuild a good machine to even unhappy instutition owner who lost $ on that junk who wished they didn't blown their savings on. Hope anyone don't get caught in between like this especially to any resellers and owners. One other shady shop was ground into dirt and new management but the sigma still from that past still lingers even that reformed shop did ok years later. Wizard