Tony, with characteristic modesty, said: Tony: MICROS~ has what they call "programmers" and they don't get that far. Do I have to win the Indy 500 before I get to be called a "driver", or is it enough if I just make it to the grocery store and back? I'd go ahead and claim credit, were I you. You might say "...not a professional programmer" or "...don't have a formal degree in programming" or even "...not a serious programmer". But if you're able to read kernel sources in order to learn how to successfully use FDRAWCMD, I'd call you a programmer. Sellam: I humbly suggest that more exact forms of expression, at least in international public forums, might avert misunderstandings. - Mark