1 Feb
2003
1 Feb
'03
10:27 p.m.
After getting a number of "Are you still alive?" messages from various
friends on the web, and having sent similar messages to them when I
received no response to other e-mails, I made an infuriating discovery.
RoadRunner is listed in several blacklists (dsbl.org for one), and a
number of ISPs are blocking e-mail from their domain (at least from
RoadRunner Nebraska - nebr.rr.com). RoadRunner's response was to fix the
open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state
that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all
mail from dsbl.org to RoadRunner users. Hence, I would send e-mails to my
friends, they would be bounced due to the blacklisting, and I would have
no indication of a problem because RR's block would prevent the "bounce"
message from getting back to me. Bastards. At least one person I was
corresponding with is no longer speaking to me because they thought I was
ignoring them. I'm about ready to start a class action suit, although
they probably have something in the fine print that prevents that. GRRR!
2 Feb
2 Feb
2:14 a.m.
New subject: RoadRunner Blacklisted, Blocking Bounce Messages!
No problems here (yet)... I checked all my IPs, and even passtrhoughs
(including half of AOL, since TimeWarner owns both the RoadRunner and AOL
networks: located via Norton Internet Security // Trace Potential Attack),
on dsbl.org, and show them not to be listed. Whuzzup with Nebraska?
Cheers!
Ed
San Antonio, Tx, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Richman" <bill(a)timeguy.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 03:10 PM
Subject: OT: RoadRunner Blacklisted, Blocking Bounce Messages!
After getting a number of "Are you still
alive?" messages from various
friends on the web, and having sent similar messages to them when I
received no response to other e-mails, I made an infuriating discovery.
RoadRunner is listed in several blacklists (dsbl.org for one), and a
number of ISPs are blocking e-mail from their domain (at least from
RoadRunner Nebraska - nebr.rr.com). RoadRunner's response was to fix the
open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state
that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all
mail from dsbl.org to RoadRunner users. Hence, I would send e-mails to my
friends, they would be bounced due to the blacklisting, and I would have
no indication of a problem because RR's block would prevent the "bounce"
message from getting back to me. Bastards. At least one person I was
corresponding with is no longer speaking to me because they thought I was
ignoring them. I'm about ready to start a class action suit, although
they probably have something in the fine print that prevents that. GRRR!
2:52 a.m.
Bill,
I've been having similar problems with my RR service (cfl.rr.com).
Joe
At 03:10 PM 1/30/03 -0600, you wrote:
After getting a number of "Are you still
alive?" messages from various
friends on the web, and having sent similar messages to them when I
received no response to other e-mails, I made an infuriating discovery.
RoadRunner is listed in several blacklists (dsbl.org for one), and a
number of ISPs are blocking e-mail from their domain (at least from
RoadRunner Nebraska - nebr.rr.com). RoadRunner's response was to fix the
open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state
that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all
mail from dsbl.org to RoadRunner users. Hence, I would send e-mails to my
friends, they would be bounced due to the blacklisting, and I would have
no indication of a problem because RR's block would prevent the "bounce"
message from getting back to me. Bastards. At least one person I was
corresponding with is no longer speaking to me because they thought I was
ignoring them. I'm about ready to start a class action suit, although
they probably have something in the fine print that prevents that. GRRR!
6:18 a.m.
Time to find a new ISP, I think.
Peace... Sridhar
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Bill Richman wrote:
After getting a number of "Are you still
alive?" messages from various
friends on the web, and having sent similar messages to them when I
received no response to other e-mails, I made an infuriating discovery.
RoadRunner is listed in several blacklists (dsbl.org for one), and a
number of ISPs are blocking e-mail from their domain (at least from
RoadRunner Nebraska - nebr.rr.com). RoadRunner's response was to fix the
open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state
that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all
mail from dsbl.org to RoadRunner users. Hence, I would send e-mails to my
friends, they would be bounced due to the blacklisting, and I would have
no indication of a problem because RR's block would prevent the "bounce"
message from getting back to me. Bastards. At least one person I was
corresponding with is no longer speaking to me because they thought I was
ignoring them. I'm about ready to start a class action suit, although
they probably have something in the fine print that prevents that. GRRR!
6:23 a.m.
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Bill Richman wrote:
After getting a number of "Are you still
alive?" messages from various
friends on the web, and having sent similar messages to them when I
received no response to other e-mails, I made an infuriating discovery.
RoadRunner is listed in several blacklists (dsbl.org for one), and a
number of ISPs are blocking e-mail from their domain (at least from
RoadRunner Nebraska - nebr.rr.com). RoadRunner's response was to fix the
open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state
that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all
mail from dsbl.org to RoadRunner users. Hence, I would send e-mails to
my friends, they would be bounced due to the blacklisting, and I would
have no indication of a problem because RR's block would prevent the
"bounce" message from getting back to me. Bastards. At least one person
I was corresponding with is no longer speaking to me because they
thought I was ignoring them. I'm about ready to start a class action
suit, although they probably have something in the fine print that
prevents that. GRRR!
Truly annoying. I would jump ship to another provider (if possible, I
realize this is Nebraska we are talking about ;) and send them a letter
letting them know why.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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6:44 a.m.
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Sellam Ismail wrote:
Truly annoying. I would jump ship to another provider
(if possible, I
realize this is Nebraska we are talking about ;) and send them a letter
letting them know why.
Or switch to another (free?) email provider but stay with roadrunner and
run a bandwidth hog GNUtella server :-)
3 Feb
3 Feb
5:34 a.m.
Bill Richman wrote:
After getting a number of "Are you still alive?" messages from various
friends on the web, and having sent similar messages to them when I
received no response to other e-mails, I made an infuriating discovery.
RoadRunner is listed in several blacklists (dsbl.org for one), and a
number of ISPs are blocking e-mail from their domain...
You know, this sort of thing may be why I haven't heard anything from
Doc Shipley <doc@mdr...com> about some private business.
Doc, let me know what's up, either way...
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---Dave Woyciesjes
---ICQ# 905818
9:45 a.m.
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, David Woyciesjes wrote:
Bill Richman wrote:
Hey. Not RR, just me looking for a round tuit. I just got back from
a month on the road. Your package will go out tomorrow, without fail.
Doc
After getting a number of "Are you still alive?" messages from various
friends on the web, and having sent similar messages to them when I
received no response to other e-mails, I made an infuriating discovery.
RoadRunner is listed in several blacklists (dsbl.org for one), and a
number of ISPs are blocking e-mail from their domain...
You know, this sort of thing may be why I haven't heard anything from
Doc Shipley <doc@mdr...com> about some private business.
Doc, let me know what's up, either way...
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