You can hear the segment about the VCF on the Weekend Edition show by going here: http://search.npr.org/cf/cmn/cmnpd01fm.cfm?PrgDate=10%2F8%2F2000&PrgID=… Scroll down to "Vintage Computers". Requires Real Player, unless there's a way to get the lame Windows player to work with .RMM files. Now I have to go download another crappy application just to listen to this. Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1 San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California See http://www.vintage.org for details!