On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Chuck Guzis wrote: Umm yeah, Don does tend towards enthusiasm for his ideas. I did use his PostScript stuff in a project; PostScript to "turtle graphics" (motion eg. N N N PENDOWN E E E PENUP S S S... where N, S, E are compass directions) followed by simple run-length compression, subsequent data blocked and punched on paper tape and a simple PIC-based box drove an analog plotter, and my favorite, a Tek 565? storage scope. "Real Soon Now" (to quote another crusty SOB) I will finish my microdisintegrator, a surplus stepper-drive XY table (some 30 microinch resolution) for engraving metal with arbitrary text and images. It'll use the same tech to drive the XY table and disintegrator "pen" from postscript. Illustrator to metal!