2 May
2001
2 May
'01
3:28 p.m.
From: Eric Dittman <dittman(a)dittman.net>
Anyone with the cdrom can cut a tape if they have a TK50 as there is no
real
restriction on where the media containing VMS install comes from.
However
it will likely be several tapes.
Am alternate method is to clone the disk (use backup/image) and send
the disk (RZ25 is plenty big enough). Or the Cdrom can be copied to an
inited RZ25 and the install done from there (you need two drives).
The 3100 owner will have to get his own license packs, thats a matter
of joining DECUS or their new name Encompass.
Allison
> MicroVAX 3100/20e...I couldn't get it to boot,
except into Standalone
BACKUP
> mode. When the box boots, it reports that
it's finding the tape
drive,
> DKA300, and DKB200.
>
> I tried Eric's suggestion, but no luck. My guess is that I need to
get
> the OS on TK50 tapes and find out whether the 2nd
disk is even alive,
but
> I have no idea where to get VMS on tape. I've
been playing with intel
> hardware for years, but this is the first time I've ever experimented
with
VMS.
I don't know where to get VMS on a TK50 at a reasonable
price, but if you have a CDROM drive you can order the
OpenVMS Hobbyist CD Media from www.montagar.com/hobbyist/. 
2 May
2 May
5:03 p.m.
Anyone with the cdrom can cut a tape if they have a
TK50 as there is no
real
restriction on where the media containing VMS install comes from.
However
it will likely be several tapes.
The number of tapes is the reason I didn't suggest this.
It would be easier to just buy a compatible CDROM drive
and install from the Hobbyist CDROM.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
6:01 p.m.
One of the things I did was a full install of 7.2 plus UCX (TCP/IP) and
then used standalone backup to make an image copy of the system disk on to
a single TK70 tape. I didn't check to see how many blocks it used however.
This makes new installs really easy, boot STABACKIT from some media (in my
case an RZ24 that just has that on it) and then image the tape on to the
system drive. I've also got an RF30 with STABACKIT on it for DSSI only
systems like my 4000/200.
I've got on my list the task of creating a VAX languages CD using the LD
driver. That comes later I think.
--Chuck
At 12:03 AM 5/3/01 -0500, you wrote:
Anyone with
the cdrom can cut a tape if they have a TK50 as there is no
real
restriction on where the media containing VMS install comes from.
However
it will likely be several tapes.
The number of tapes is the reason I didn't suggest this.
It would be easier to just buy a compatible CDROM drive
and install from the Hobbyist CDROM.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net 
3 May
3 May
3:33 a.m.
One of the things I did was a full install of 7.2 plus
UCX (TCP/IP) and
then used standalone backup to make an image copy of the system disk on to
a single TK70 tape. I didn't check to see how many blocks it used however.
This makes new installs really easy, boot STABACKIT from some media (in my
case an RZ24 that just has that on it) and then image the tape on to the
system drive. I've also got an RF30 with STABACKIT on it for DSSI only
systems like my 4000/200.
I liked my trick, but it required a semi-alive HD with OpenVMS on it, and a
working system with a CD-ROM. To get OpenVMS V7.2 on the MicroVAX III I've
got with RA72's and RA73's I hooked a RD54 (running a fairly trashed 5.5-2
setup) up long enough that I was able to transfer a backup file of the V7.2
Hobbyist CD over to the system and restore it to one of the RA72's. I then
booted that and installed the OS on the other RA72.
I've suspected something simular can be done if you boot the target machine
into a cluster as a diskless system, but I've never had the time to figure
out what needs to be done.
I've got on my list the task of creating a VAX
languages CD using the LD
driver. That comes later I think.
--Chuck
Were you the one looking for DIBOL? If you didn't see my note the other
day it's on the Freeware V5.0 CD.
Zane
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