11 Mar
2012
11 Mar
'12
8:28 p.m.
Hi,
with all this talking about the COSMAC and the gizmo from STG,
I went searching through my boxes for some TIL311 displays.
My rusty memory has still some good spots :-)
I have 8 TIL311 displays which I can list on eBay, but I offer them
here first, so I know they land in a good home.
Asking $35 (for all 8) plus shipping (from The Netherlands).
First responder to pa8pdp AT amsat DOT org gets them.
I only have 8 of them.
- Henk.
11 Mar
11 Mar
9 p.m.
That was fast! They are gone!
tnx,
- Henk.
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From: "Henk Gooijen" <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:28 PM
To: "cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: COSMAC Elf 2000 - TIL311 displays
Hi,
with all this talking about the COSMAC and the gizmo from STG,
I went searching through my boxes for some TIL311 displays.
My rusty memory has still some good spots :-)
I have 8 TIL311 displays which I can list on eBay, but I offer them
here first, so I know they land in a good home.
Asking $35 (for all 8) plus shipping (from The Netherlands).
First responder to pa8pdp AT amsat DOT org gets them.
I only have 8 of them.
- Henk.
9:37 p.m.
Crap!
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Henk Gooijen <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com> wrote:
That was fast! They are gone!
tnx,
- Henk.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Henk Gooijen" <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:28 PM
To: "cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: COSMAC Elf 2000 - TIL311 displays
> Hi,
>
> with all this talking about the COSMAC and the gizmo from STG,
> I went searching through my boxes for some TIL311 displays.
> My rusty memory has still some good spots :-)
> I have 8 TIL311 displays which I can list on eBay, but I offer them
> here first, so I know they land in a good home.
> Asking $35 (for all 8) plus shipping (from The Netherlands).
> First responder to pa8pdp AT amsat DOT org gets them.
> I only have 8 of them.
>
> - Henk.
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? ? ? ? ? ?but you have to be a genius to understand its simplicity. ~ dmr
11:39 p.m.
On 03/11/2012 03:28 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote:
Hi,
with all this talking about the COSMAC and the gizmo from STG,
I went searching through my boxes for some TIL311 displays.
My rusty memory has still some good spots :-)
I have 8 TIL311 displays which I can list on eBay, but I offer them
here first, so I know they land in a good home.
Asking $35 (for all 8) plus shipping (from The Netherlands).
First responder to pa8pdp AT amsat DOT org gets them.
I only have 8 of them.
Oh, I love those things! :-)
I think I still have about eight too in the (overseas) junk box; I used to
use them a lot as displays when I was prototyping stuff.
12 Mar
12 Mar
12:54 a.m.
Henk, aren't they used on FT101ZD and 301Z radios? Maybe some hams have
better use for them :)
---
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Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
----- Original Message -----
From: "Henk Gooijen" <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com>
To: "cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:28 PM
Subject: COSMAC Elf 2000 - TIL311 displays
Hi,
with all this talking about the COSMAC and the gizmo from STG,
I went searching through my boxes for some TIL311 displays.
My rusty memory has still some good spots :-)
I have 8 TIL311 displays which I can list on eBay, but I offer them
here first, so I know they land in a good home.
Asking $35 (for all 8) plus shipping (from The Netherlands).
First responder to pa8pdp AT amsat DOT org gets them.
I only have 8 of them.
- Henk.
3:08 a.m.
New subject: radio displays, was Re: COSMAC Elf 2000 - TIL311 displays
On 03/11/2012 08:54 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
Henk, aren't they used on FT101ZD and 301Z radios? Maybe some hams have
better use for them :)
Speaking of which, does anyone have any HP 5082-7415 displays? I
need one for my Yaesu FT-ONE transceiver.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
4:14 p.m.
Hi Alexandre,
I really don't know if those displays are used in the old (great) FT sets.
Maybe I am becoming an old fart ... those new Japanese thingies with those
tiny knobs and (even worse) small texts on the front are not for me. Perhaps
also because my eye sight is not what it used to be. I need glasses :-(
Anyways, the displays were gone in 15 minutes!
I still have a few HP dot-matrix displays with decoder inside it. Always
wanted
to build *something* with them. Personally, those red dot-matrix displays
are
very high on my list of great looking displays. CRTs are just one notch
higher :-)
- Henk, PA8PDP
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Alexandre Souza - Listas" <pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:54 AM
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: COSMAC Elf 2000 - TIL311 displays
Henk, aren't they used on FT101ZD and 301Z radios? Maybe some hams have
better use for them :)
---
Enviado do meu Motorola PT550
Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
----- Original Message -----
From: "Henk Gooijen" <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com>
To: "cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:28 PM
Subject: COSMAC Elf 2000 - TIL311 displays
Hi,
with all this talking about the COSMAC and the gizmo from STG,
I went searching through my boxes for some TIL311 displays.
My rusty memory has still some good spots :-)
I have 8 TIL311 displays which I can list on eBay, but I offer them
here first, so I know they land in a good home.
Asking $35 (for all 8) plus shipping (from The Netherlands).
First responder to pa8pdp AT amsat DOT org gets them.
I only have 8 of them.
- Henk.
6:36 p.m.
On 12/03/12 16:14, Henk Gooijen wrote:
Personally, those red dot-matrix displays are
very high on my list of great looking displays. CRTs are just one notch
higher :-)
What about the neat-looking amber electroluminescent panels that Planar
make? I always thought they looked cool.
And plasma displays... those are neat too :)
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
6:48 p.m.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Philip Pemberton
<classiccmp at philpem.me.uk> wrote:
On 12/03/12 16:14, Henk Gooijen wrote:
Planar amber EL panels are nice (I have an ELT320), but I don't think
they ever scaled that down to the 1-line size like some of intelligent
LED displays. They probably didn't need to move into the range that
VFDs have occupied very successfully, if I had to guess.
Personally, those red dot-matrix displays are
very high on my list of great looking displays. CRTs are just one notch
higher :-)
What about the neat-looking amber electroluminescent panels that Planar
make? I always thought they looked cool. And plasma displays... those are neat too :)
Those certainly have a glow all their own.
-ethan
8:43 p.m.
What about the
neat-looking amber electroluminescent panels that Planar
make? I always thought they looked cool.
Planar amber EL panels are nice (I have an ELT320), but I don't think
they ever scaled that down to the 1-line size like some of intelligent
LED displays. They probably didn't need to move into the range that
VFDs have occupied very successfully, if I had to guess.
9:26 p.m.
On 12 Mar 2012 at 20:43, Tony Duell wrote:
What about the Panaplex 7-segemnt gas discharge
displays?
Or the gas discharge dot-matrix displays that include their own 'sift
register)? You know how you can step a discharge round a dekatron tub,
well at least one mnufacturer made a dot matrix display on that
principle. You applied the next column of dots to the electrodes at
one end, then sequenced the 2 control electrodes, and all the dots
moved along one cloumn.
I liked the mechanical project-type display, where a stepping
arrangement moved a strip of film. Probably a bit large for an Elf,
though.
Nimo tubes, anyone?
--Chuck
9:46 p.m.
Chuck Guzis wrote:
I liked the mechanical project-type display, where a
stepping
arrangement moved a strip of film.
I've never seen that kind, but it sounds very cool! The projection
displays I've seen use an array of twelve incandescent bulbs, film with
a corresponsing array of twelve glyphs to act as masks, and a plastic
molded piece that provides twelve lenses.
11:59 p.m.
On 12 Mar 2012 at 14:46, Eric Smith wrote:
I've never seen that kind, but it sounds very
cool! The projection
displays I've seen use an array of twelve incandescent bulbs, film
with a corresponsing array of twelve glyphs to act as masks, and a
plastic molded piece that provides twelve lenses.
Usually used on some 50s military gear, if memory serves. encased in
metal, perhaps 10-12" in length with connector on the rear and a
plate retained by screws for (single) bulb replacement. Retention
screws in the front bezel; very clearly meant for rough service. I
can't find an image of one on the web.
I don't recall who made them.
--Chuck
13 Mar
13 Mar
12:47 a.m.
On 2012 Mar 12, at 2:46 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
Chuck Guzis wrote:
e.g.: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~hilpert/e/edte/VennerTSA3336/index.html
I liked the mechanical project-type display,
where a stepping
arrangement moved a strip of film.
I've never seen that kind, but it sounds very cool! The projection
displays I've seen use an array of twelve incandescent bulbs, film
with a corresponsing array of twelve glyphs to act as masks, and a
plastic molded piece that provides twelve lenses.
1:32 a.m.
On 12 Mar 2012 at 17:47, Brent Hilpert wrote:
On 2012 Mar 12, at 2:46 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
Another take on the same idea. The ones that I had used a long strip
of sprocketed film in a continuous loop, moved by a solenoid-and-
ratchet stepping system. Heavy buggers because of the steel case on
each module.
I suspect that there were many variations on the idea.
--Chuck
Chuck Guzis wrote:
e.g.: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~hilpert/e/edte/VennerTSA3336/index.html I liked the mechanical project-type display,
where a stepping
arrangement moved a strip of film.
I've never seen that kind, but it sounds very cool! The projection
displays I've seen use an array of twelve incandescent bulbs, film
with a corresponsing array of twelve glyphs to act as masks, and a
plastic molded piece that provides twelve lenses. 
2:20 a.m.
On 3/12/2012 1:43 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
What about the Panaplex 7-segemnt gas discharge displays?
I love those. I have an old Heathkit digital clock that uses three
separate Panaplex displays (two digits each) to display the time. And
then I have this:
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/displays/babcock.jpg
Which is the same idea, only larger and with 8 digits. (The beer is
there to provide a size reference :)). The digits are 4" high. The
display unit itself came from some sort of industrial controller and
came with an Intel microcontroller and built-in powersupply. I
reverse-engineered the circuits driving the display and now have it
running off an AVR microcontroller, which I've programmed to run the
display as a clock (and why not.) Displays in octal, decimal, and
hexadecimal as well as "seconds elapsed this year" mode.
I also threw this together recently from some DL-1416 16-segment
displays I had in a parts bin:
http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/displays/16-segment.jpg
I have two plasma displays I need to find a good use for, one is a 20
character dot-matrix character display, the other is 40x8 characters. I
have specs for both and have gotten them to light up and do my bidding,
but I need to figure out what I want to do with them. Probably another
clock or two :).
- Josh
What about the neat-looking amber electroluminescent
panels that Planar
make? I always thought they looked cool.
Planar amber EL panels are nice (I have
an ELT320), but I don't think
they ever scaled that down to the 1-line size like some of intelligent
LED displays. They probably didn't need to move into the range that
VFDs have occupied very successfully, if I had to guess.
1:11 p.m.
On 03/12/2012 09:20 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
On 3/12/2012 1:43 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
What about the Panaplex 7-segemnt gas discharge displays?
I love those. I have an old Heathkit digital clock that uses three separate
Panaplex displays (two digits each) to display the time.
I think that (the displays) might be what I have a bunch of; they're
gas-discharge and have a nice orange glow to them, anyway. I've got a few
doubles, some singles, and also a few that are smaller (more like 5/8" in
height rather than 1")
What about the neat-looking amber electroluminescent
panels that Planar
make? I always thought they looked cool.
Planar amber EL panels are nice (I have
an ELT320), but I don't think
they ever scaled that down to the 1-line size like some of intelligent
LED displays. They probably didn't need to move into the range that
VFDs have occupied very successfully, if I had to guess.
I also threw this together recently from some DL-1416
16-segment displays I
had in a parts bin:
*thank you*! I was trying to write a reply to Henk and wanted to mention
those, but I couldn't recall the type number (I actually had the 1416 bit,
and thought there may have been a 'D' prefix, but I'd forgotten about the
'L').
I've got a few (4 or 5) of them, but have never powered them up or seen any
working as I never had any documentation for them. Is the pinkish glow in
your photo how they actually appear? They look really nice if so!
I have two plasma displays I need to find a good use
for, one is a 20
character dot-matrix character display, the other is 40x8 characters. I
have specs for both and have gotten them to light up and do my bidding, but
I need to figure out what I want to do with them. Probably another clock or
two :).
I have one display that IIRC is organized as 80x1 chars (each cell is 9x5
pixels I think), but again I've never found documentation on how to drive
the thing. That one ran with a green color (it came out of a late '70s
machine, driven by a nice ceramic TMS9900 CPU)
cheers
Jules
4:49 p.m.
From: "Jules Richardson" <jules.richardson99 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:11 PM
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: COSMAC Elf 2000 - TIL311 displays
[... snip ...]
Yes, I know the DL1416's ... I have them in the "communications display"
of my StarShip. Just looked at that old site ... haven't done anything with
it
for 10 years now sigh ...
(http://home.kpn.nl/tshaj/ncc1701site/ncc1701startpage.html)
I am pretty sure to have a picture with the display lit, but can't find it
now.
The display is in the left side, middle section, the small dark "bar".
If you can not find the doc of the DL1416, I can search for it in my
StarShip doc. As a technical writer, I *do* document my own stuff, hi.
It will be just a few sheets, so I can scan them.
- Henk.
On 03/12/2012 09:20 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
> On 3/12/2012 1:43 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
[... snip ...]
I also threw this together recently from some
DL-1416 16-segment displays
I
had in a parts bin:
*thank you*! I was trying to write a reply to Henk and wanted to mention
those, but I couldn't recall the type number (I actually had the 1416 bit,
and thought there may have been a 'D' prefix, but I'd forgotten about the
'L').
I've got a few (4 or 5) of them, but have never powered them up or seen
any working as I never had any documentation for them. Is the pinkish glow
in your photo how they actually appear? They look really nice if so! cheers
Jules
12 Mar
12 Mar
6:56 p.m.
On 03/12/2012 02:36 PM, Philip Pemberton wrote:
On 12/03/12 16:14, Henk Gooijen wrote:
I love displays as well. This is my current favorite, the HP 5082-7359:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/HP5082-7359.jpg
Ceramic base, glass top, hermetically sealed, built like a tank, and
absolutely gorgeous.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Personally, those red dot-matrix displays are
very high on my list of great looking displays. CRTs are just one notch
higher :-)
What about the neat-looking amber electroluminescent panels that Planar
make? I always thought they looked cool.
And plasma displays... those are neat too :) 
13 Mar
13 Mar
12:52 a.m.
On 3/12/2012 11:56 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 03/12/2012 02:36 PM, Philip Pemberton wrote:
I have 4x 5082-7100 displays. Similar except 3 digits per package.
I'm waiting for the right project to use them.
Bob.
On 12/03/12 16:14, Henk Gooijen wrote:
I love displays as well. This is my current favorite, the HP 5082-7359:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/HP5082-7359.jpg
Ceramic base, glass top, hermetically sealed, built like a tank, and
absolutely gorgeous.
-Dave
Personally, those red dot-matrix displays are
very high on my list of great looking displays. CRTs are just one notch
higher :-)
What about the neat-looking amber electroluminescent panels that Planar
make? I always thought they looked cool.
And plasma displays... those are neat too :)
8:29 p.m.
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/HP5082-7359.jpg
Ceramic base, glass top, hermetically sealed, built like a tank, and
absolutely gorgeous.
-Dave
I have 4x 5082-7100 displays. Similar except 3 digits per package.
I'm waiting for the right project to use them.
12 Mar
12 Mar
4:16 p.m.
From: "Jules Richardson" <jules.richardson99 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:39 AM
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: COSMAC Elf 2000 - TIL311 displays
On 03/11/2012 03:28 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote:
And they are among the coolest looking displays, IMHO.
Always loved (red) LED displays over all those flimsy LCD displays (again
IMHO).
- Henk.
Hi,
with all this talking about the COSMAC and the gizmo from STG,
I went searching through my boxes for some TIL311 displays.
My rusty memory has still some good spots :-)
I have 8 TIL311 displays which I can list on eBay, but I offer them
here first, so I know they land in a good home.
Asking $35 (for all 8) plus shipping (from The Netherlands).
First responder to pa8pdp AT amsat DOT org gets them.
I only have 8 of them.
Oh, I love those things! :-)
I think I still have about eight too in the (overseas) junk box; I used to
use them a lot as displays when I was prototyping stuff.
7:11 p.m.
From: "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:56 PM
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: COSMAC Elf 2000 - TIL311 displays
On 03/12/2012 02:36 PM, Philip Pemberton wrote:
Ah yes, those I have! The ones shown on the left side of the picture.
Both types, the grey-ish ones with transparant glass at the top and
the red ones at the bottom!
I must admit, I searched for the FT-ONE displays, but only found the
red ones plus the grey-ish ones. I did not know that I had those ...
time to spend some more time checking out all those little boxes.
- Henk, PA8PDP
On 12/03/12 16:14, Henk Gooijen wrote:
I love displays as well. This is my current favorite, the HP 5082-7359:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/HP5082-7359.jpg
Ceramic base, glass top, hermetically sealed, built like a tank, and
absolutely gorgeous.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA Personally, those red dot-matrix displays are
very high on my list of great looking displays. CRTs are just one notch
higher :-)
What about the neat-looking amber electroluminescent panels that Planar
make? I always thought they looked cool.
And plasma displays... those are neat too :)
7:20 p.m.
On 03/12/2012 03:11 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote:
I love displays as well. This is my current favorite, the HP 5082-7359:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/HP5082-7359.jpg
Ceramic base, glass top, hermetically sealed, built like a tank, and
absolutely gorgeous.
Ah yes, those I have! The ones shown on the left side of the picture.
Both types, the grey-ish ones with transparant glass at the top and
the red ones at the bottom!
Nice! I have lots of great displays, which I don't have just to
"collect" them, I want to use them. My problem is thinking "wow, this
is a really special display, I need a really special project to put it
in!" ...then no project seems to be special enough. ;) So there they
sit, wasted, in anti-static boxes.
I really need to start using the special ones.
Personally,
those red dot-matrix displays are
very high on my list of great looking displays. CRTs are just one notch
higher :-)
What about the neat-looking amber electroluminescent panels that Planar
make? I always thought they looked cool.
And plasma displays... those are neat too :) I must admit, I searched for the FT-ONE displays, but
only found the
red ones plus the grey-ish ones. I did not know that I had those ...
time to spend some more time checking out all those little boxes.
Thanks for checking! The FT-ONE is one of my favorite transcievers,
but one of the little displays to the right has lost a segment.
It's...just not right. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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