4 Aug
2001
4 Aug
'01
12:34 p.m.
On August 2, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
Here's the web edition of an article on VCF East
in The Economist:
http://www.economist.com/finance/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=719262
I don't know if the article is any longer in the print edition.
I had to laugh at the first paragraph:
"IT IS hard to love something made of grey plastic. Especially hard
when it has a habit of crashing, deleting your work and spreading
viruses."
It sounds like Microsoft has the whole world convinced that all
computers behave like PeeCees running Windows. I find this
infuriating.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
Laurel, MD
4 Aug
4 Aug
5:49 p.m.
On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Dave McGuire wrote:
It sounds like Microsoft has the whole world
convinced that all
computers behave like PeeCees running Windows. I find this
infuriating.
...and it also shows what incompetent loonies the publishers of biz
rags like the Economist apparently are, to actually believe that all
computers crash frequently and are unreliable like Windoze PeeCees.
Talk about incompetent journalism! ...and just think who this biz
rags readers are, and how much influence over things these biz droids
have, when their combined intellect is, by current estimates, many
magnitues lower than the combined intellect of Larry, Moe and Curly
(The Three Stooges), nyuck, nyuck, nyuck...
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6 Aug
6 Aug
5:44 a.m.
At 10:49 PM 8/4/01 -0400, R. D. Davis wrote:
...and it also shows what incompetent loonies the
publishers of biz
rags like the Economist apparently are, to actually believe that all
computers crash frequently and are unreliable like Windoze PeeCees.
Talk about incompetent journalism!
The Economist stands head and shoulders above most US media
in terms of the depth of thinking in most of its articles.
Perhaps you could browse their web site to see what I'm
talking about. Obviously the author was referring to the
Windows PC, the mostly commonly used type of personal computer
on the planet, at least among those of us who don't live
in their parent's basement.
I know this isn't going to help my debate with you, but
it's one of the few magazines that Bill Gates takes the
time to read. :-)
- John
7:25 a.m.
It's also popular among sitting US presidents.
Peace... Sridhar
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, John Foust wrote:
At 10:49 PM 8/4/01 -0400, R. D. Davis wrote:
...and it also shows what incompetent loonies the
publishers of biz
rags like the Economist apparently are, to actually believe that all
computers crash frequently and are unreliable like Windoze PeeCees.
Talk about incompetent journalism!
The Economist stands head and shoulders above most US media
in terms of the depth of thinking in most of its articles.
Perhaps you could browse their web site to see what I'm
talking about. Obviously the author was referring to the
Windows PC, the mostly commonly used type of personal computer
on the planet, at least among those of us who don't live
in their parent's basement.
I know this isn't going to help my debate with you, but
it's one of the few magazines that Bill Gates takes the
time to read. :-)
- John
11 a.m.
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Master of all that Sucks wrote:
[the Economist, read by Bill Gates]
It's also popular among sitting US presidents.
That explains a lot. No wonder this world's safest for the mindless.
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All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such
http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
10:55 a.m.
[flames-mode on, asbestos-suit on]
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, A snot rag emeritus rumored to be John Foust
appears to have scribbled the following from his Fisher-Price keyboard:
At 10:49 PM 8/4/01 -0400, R. D. Davis wrote:
>...and it also shows what incompetent loonies the publishers of biz
>rags like the Economist apparently are, to actually believe that all
>computers crash frequently and are unreliable like Windoze PeeCees.
>Talk about incompetent journalism!
The Economist stands head and shoulders above most US
media
in terms of the depth of thinking in most of its articles.
If it did, then it wouldn't have published that drivel. It was an
example, pure and simple, of incompetent journalism. If they don't
know enough about computers to understand that not all computers and
operating systems crash frequently, and are otherwise as unreliable as
Microsoft rubbish, then they have no business printing computer
related articles.
However, since when did a lack of knowledge prevent know-it-all
biz-'droids from being self-appointed authorities on any given topic?
They're good at screwing up the world, but, hey, no problem for them;
they just pay some politicians to put the blame elsewhere,
Perhaps you could browse their web site to see what
I'm
So they can get attempt to get some marketing info. from cookies on my
system, right? Crawl back into your gutter, gutterball. Of course,
anyone as thick-skulled as you is most likely impervious to insults;
what a shame, because you really need some to sink into that little
mind of yours and shrink your ego a bit---since your head may explode
as it, apparently, wasn't designed for anything large, like that ego,
to be inside of it.
talking about. Obviously the author was referring to
the
Windows PC, the mostly commonly used type of personal computer
on the planet, at least among those of us who don't live
in their parent's basement.
Well, I don't live in my parents basement, but if any members of this
list do, I'd not be ridiculing them for it, publicly or privately. Of
course, unlike you, I don't get my jollies from giving cheap low blows
like you appear to enjoy giving.
I know this isn't going to help my debate with
you, but
it's one of the few magazines that Bill Gates takes the
time to read. :-)
That figures. Need I say more?
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All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such
http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
11:17 a.m.
At 03:55 PM 8/6/01 -0400, R. D. Davis wrote:
If it did, then it wouldn't have published that
drivel. It was an
example, pure and simple, of incompetent journalism. If they don't
know enough about computers to understand that not all computers and
operating systems crash frequently, and are otherwise as unreliable as
Microsoft rubbish, then they have no business printing computer
related articles.
I know the English language can be subtle and all, especially when
written by a Brit and read by a resident of the US, but I do not see
where you're coming from. I fail to see where your over-the-top
ranting is justified by such an innocuous article.
It was clear to me the author was talking about today's most commonly
used computers. He wasn't trying to state that these old computers
must crash and virus. For his lead paragraph, he used a common
perception of today's computers users: that crashes and viruses
are not actions that make most people love their computers, but
gee, look at these geeks who like old computers. I'm surprised
he didn't mention trainspotting.
I think the VCF should be glad for the publicity in such a highly
regarded magazine. I'd rather be there than Wired any day.
So they can get attempt to get some marketing info.
from cookies on my
system, right? Crawl back into your gutter, gutterball.
Yes. The VCF article was a trick designed to steal cookies from
the highly valuable demographic group of those who collect computers
that are more than ten years old. And it will also add fluoride
to your water. And it's my fault they use cookies, so flame away.
Let's talk about something fun, like how many times Sellam
has taken Christine Finn to lunch, or vice-versa.
- John
1:45 p.m.
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, John Foust wrote:
I think the VCF should be glad for the publicity in
such a highly
regarded magazine. I'd rather be there than Wired any day.
I am. The publicity is always welcomed.
I didn't chime in on this because I dismissed R.D.'s remarks as his
typical mad-man rantings. I'm sure he means well :)
Yes. The VCF article was a trick designed to steal
cookies from the
highly valuable demographic group of those who collect computers that
are more than ten years old. And it will also add fluoride to your
water. And it's my fault they use cookies, so flame away.
I'm almost done with the by-laws for the forthcoming Vintage Computer
Festival: Secret Society for Hardware Hackers (or VCF: SSHH!)
Let's talk about something fun, like how many
times Sellam has taken
Christine Finn to lunch, or vice-versa.
I think we're about evenly split, probably somewhere around 10-12 times
each for lunch and dinner dates. We've even shared a room or two before
in various spots around the world. I'll leave it up to the dirty minded
pervert nerds to imagine what may or may not have happened during such
occasions (hint: nothing).
Did that quench your National Enquirer-esque thirst for rumor and
innuendo?
:)
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
4:25 p.m.
Let's talk about something fun, like how many
times Sellam has taken
Christine Finn to lunch, or vice-versa.
I think we're about evenly split, probably somewhere around 10-12 times
each for lunch and dinner dates. We've even shared a room or two before
in various spots around the world. I'll leave it up to the dirty minded
pervert nerds to imagine what may or may not have happened during such
occasions (hint: nothing).
Did that quench your National Enquirer-esque thirst for rumor and
innuendo?
3:51 p.m.
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ernest wrote:
So, this Christine person... is she a hottie? Any
relation to Sheryln
Finn? How long have you two been an item? hehe.
Ok, this is getting childish (and I thought *I* was immature :)
Christine Finn is an archaeologist and a scholar devoting her time to the
study of change over time in computer development, among other things.
She is not a "hottie" in the sense you are using it. She's a professional
researcher, and we have a professional relationship. We are not, nor have
we ever been, an "item". We are colleagues and collaborators.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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7:49 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Sellam Ismail
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 5:51 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: VCF East makes The Economist
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ernest wrote:
I'm just teasing ya, Man. I'm mentioned to you before how sincerely envious
of you I am, for getting to spend time with an archaeologist/historian. I
can only imagine the conversational possiblities that you're presented with,
when you two are having dinner together. Sometimes, I would give just about
anything to have someone like that to hang out with.
E.
So, this Christine person... is she a hottie? Any
relation to Sheryln
Finn? How long have you two been an item? hehe.
Ok, this is getting childish (and I thought *I* was immature :)
Christine Finn is an archaeologist and a scholar devoting her time to the
study of change over time in computer development, among other things.
She is not a "hottie" in the sense you are using it. She's a professional
researcher, and we have a professional relationship. We are not, nor have
we ever been, an "item". We are colleagues and collaborators.
7 Aug
7 Aug
10:34 a.m.
At 05:51 PM 8/6/01 -0700, Sellam Ismail wrote:
Ok, this is getting childish (and I thought *I* was
immature :)
Christine Finn is an archaeologist and a scholar devoting her time to the
study of change over time in computer development, among other things.
She is not a "hottie" in the sense you are using it. She's a professional
researcher, and we have a professional relationship. We are not, nor have
we ever been, an "item". We are colleagues and collaborators.
She talks on poetry, like "Sex and 'Coagulated Sunlight': Butter in
Literary Context" and "Rankness or Richness: Bog Butter as an Academic
Resource" plus writing about Sellam in Archaeology magazine - she sounds
like quite a character.
And two dozen lunches and dinners? I've had entire relationships
that didn't last that long. :-) Maybe you can sell a few autographed
copies of the book when it comes out.
At 09:18 AM 8/7/01 -0700, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
I think that Sellam's wife may be reading the list,
so he will have to
DENY EVERYTHING! If you run into him with his wife, please don't mention
his "archaeologist colleague".
Sellam has a wife? When I read this, the first thought that
flashed through my mind was "What do lawyers use for contraception?
Their personalities." But that's only because my wife is a lawyer. :-)
- John
http://www.ipcc.ie/infobogbutter.html
6 Aug
6 Aug
7:31 p.m.
I'll let Sellam answer most of the questions, but I have to say that the
name of the actress in "Twin Peaks" is Sherilyn FENN.
Peace... Sridhar
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ernest wrote:
So, this Christine person... is she a hottie? Any
relation to Sheryln Finn?
How long have you two been an item? hehe.
E.
7:51 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Master of all that
Sucks
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:32 PM
To: Ernest
Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: VCF East makes The Economist
I'll let Sellam answer most of the questions, but I have to say that the
name of the actress in "Twin Peaks" is Sherilyn FENN.
Darn. You're right. I should have looked it up. I was just teasing Sellam,
anyway.
E.
7 Aug
7 Aug
7:18 a.m.
> So, this Christine person... is she a hottie? Any
relation to Sheryln Finn?
> How long have you two been an item? hehe.
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Master of all that Sucks wrote:
I'll let Sellam answer most of the questions, but
I have to say that the
name of the actress in "Twin Peaks" is Sherilyn FENN.
We all know about stage names, and how actresses would try to distance
themselves from relatives, particularly archaeologist twin sisters, etc.
I think that Sellam's wife may be reading the list, so he will have to
DENY EVERYTHING! If you run into him with his wife, please don't mention
his "archaeologist colleague".
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